South African apartheid supporter hacked to death

[reallyscrued]

The murderer should be tried, found guilty, and imprisoned for life.

Why not killed by another looking for justice?

 

[Red Dawn]

Man, it seems like a lot of people have trouble distinguishing someone getting what he deserves from right/wrong.

I think this lack of understanding is what leads to so many otherwise reasonable Americans supporting torture as a policy. We all agree that a terrorist deserves torture. Some of us can distinguish between that and the fact that it's unjust and wrong for our state to torture them. Some of us can't, and think what happened at Abu Graib is OK. Justice isn't the same as law.

Seems like he was slaughtered over a dispute regarding wages. Do you actually believe that he deserved to be slaughtered over that?

 

[xj0hnx]

Man, it seems like a lot of people have trouble distinguishing someone getting what he deserves from right/wrong.

I think this lack of understanding is what leads to so many otherwise reasonable Americans supporting torture as a policy. We all agree that a terrorist deserves torture. Some of us can distinguish between that and the fact that it's unjust and wrong for our state to torture them. Some of us can't, and think what happened at Abu Graib is OK. Justice isn't the same as law.

Not only believing he deserved, but being joyous about, a man being slaughtered because you don't like his political views is sick and twisted. Your ultimate hypocrisy is that if he were brought to trial, and found guilty, and sentenced to death you wouldn't support it. Whacko.

Seems like he was slaughtered over a dispute regarding wages. Do you actually believe that he deserved to be slaughtered over that?

He believes that he deserved to be slaughtered over his political views. the left doesn't seem to have a problem with people being silenced, and murdered when they have differing political views, quite a few posters on here have expressed joy in people they don't agree with being murdered.

 

[Red Dawn]

Not only believing he deserved, but being joyous about, a man being slaughtered because you don't like his political views is sick and twisted. Your ultimate hypocrisy is that if he were brought to trial, and found guilty, and sentenced to death you wouldn't support it. Whacko.



He believes that he deserved to be slaughtered over his political views. the left doesn't seem to have a problem with people being silenced, and murdered when they have differing political views, quite a few posters on here have expressed joy in people they don't agree with being murdered.

Jeez after reading some of your inane balls in a knot posts I kind of understand where they are coming from. That said I truly believe that assholes should be left to be assholes without fear of being slaughtered.

Now if he had been responsible to the slaughter of others then I'd say he got what he deserved. Uhh.. there's no evidenced he was responsible for anybody being slaughtered is there?

 

[xj0hnx]

Jeez after reading some of your inane balls in a knot posts I kind of understand where they are coming from. That said I truly believe that assholes should be left to be assholes without fear of being slaughtered.

Say it isn't so, another one being sympathetic with murder for people they don't agree with them? Color me surprised.

Now if he had been responsible to the slaughter of others then I'd say he got what he deserved. Uhh.. there's no evidenced he was responsible for anybody being slaughtered is there?

Don't know, would that make him being slaughter better? Instead of tried in a court and sentenced to death?

 

[Red Dawn]

Say it isn't so, another one being sympathetic with murder for people they don't agree with them? Color me surprised.



Don't know, would that make him being slaughter better? Instead of tried in a court and sentenced to death?

Understanding is not sympathetic.

 

[xj0hnx]

Understanding is not sympathetic.

 

[Red Dawn]

For example, I understand that you are a cliche spouting cross wired wingnut idiot but I'm not sympathetic towards you.

 

[Throckmorton]

Jeez after reading some of your inane balls in a knot posts I kind of understand where they are coming from. That said I truly believe that assholes should be left to be assholes without fear of being slaughtered.

Now if he had been responsible to the slaughter of others then I'd say he got what he deserved. Uhh.. there's no evidenced he was responsible for anybody being slaughtered is there?

Apartheid itself is responsible for death and suffering of many men, women, children, and unborn. Where does responsibility end?

Is it a matter of degrees? Can you advocate for a holocaust without being responsible? Can you advocate for slavery without being responsible? I guess denying fundamental rights to an entire race ain't so bad?

 

[xj0hnx]

For example, I understand that you are a cliche spouting cross wired wingnut idiot but I'm not sympathetic towards you.

Haha, a perfect example of the loony left. You people are seriously whacko.

 

[xj0hnx]

Apartheid itself is responsible for death and suffering of many men, women, children, and unborn. Where does responsibility end?

Is it a matter of degrees? Can you advocate for a holocaust without being responsible? Can you advocate for slavery without being responsible? I guess denying fundamental rights to an entire race ain't so bad?

Denying rights = murder? Weird.

 

[Apocalypse23]

An interesting scenario we have here, and also some disputed heat in the midst of all of this, especially on AT forums. But I think that this murder really will spark racial tensions. I'm sure whoever committed this heinous act had their reasons, people don't go psycho for nothing. When a man get's pissed and is desperate for some peace of mind, he can do anything, I firmly believe this. In Africa we see more of the machete's going loose since it's all they have. In nations like Somalia, they have massive weapons, in other countries they don't have guns so they use what they can. There's massive (I mean massive) poverty and unemployment, these two things alone will make any man go insane, and in Africa it's where you will see it the most.

Nothing can be done to fix this, only time and self development will heal this, and I estimate at least another 100 years before Africa can catch up. The problem is widespread. Everyone should just get along and suck it all up, radical extremists (black and white) will never achieve anything good, and only polarize a nation.

When I looked at the killings and beatings of Zimbabwean immigrants pouring into SA last year I was shocked, the issue is deep rooted into poverty and unemployment. If only these African governments would smarten up and help keep their citizens happy, we would not be seeing this.

 

[Bitek]

Lets take a look from the ground of this hell on earth and host of the 2010 World Cup.

Cape Town and the Western Cape, SA:

Notice the white man about to be butchered by the banjo player at any moment:

The gated communities quivering in fear (not just of penguins):

If you don't see anything other than the ugliness, you never will see one of the true gems of the Earth:

There is so much more to the country than you think. Many of the cities and villages are absolutely breathtaking, as well as clean, modern and sophisticated. You can't say that for much of NJ.

 

[Bitek]

Don't get me wrong, there are some very bad places to go, and you always need to be vigilant in the larger cities. However, this is true for many places in the US as well (NJ!)

The shanty towns are very real. They can be violent, and they spread crime to the surrounding areas. More than anything, they are the collection of some of the most poor, unempowered and downtrodden people you will ever see. Poverty of this scale does not exist in the US. Its unimaginable for Americans to picture if you've never been out of the 1st world.

Also near Cape Town:

One of our freinds (white girl from the US) lives in Joburg. She owns a business and works with all blacks. Gated communities and compounds are more the norm there. The townships and large and sprawling, and often well armed.
Gangs of men w/ AK47s go out and rob and rape. She still loves her adopted city.

Backyard view of her house:

Her driveway: lol

Her neighbor has two fences. Ostriches are in the inner area, and are very lethal to intruders. She has a "rape button" in her house, and had to use it once when some men came over the electric fence. ADT security services there are no-nonsense paramilitary forces. They will fuck you up if they are called on you.

It is a beautiful city none the less, but it is one with deep structural problems of poverty and violence. It is not a place to lose your head.

I could go on with more stories, but enough for today.

What's the point of this? There is so much more out there than you get from the news. As anywhere else, you are only getting a very narrow view and the bigger picture is far richer and far more complicated.

 

[Noobtastic]

Don't get me wrong, there are some very bad places to go, and you always need to be vigilant in the larger cities. However, this is true for many places in the US as well (NJ!)

The shanty towns are very real. They can be violent, and they spread crime to the surrounding areas. More than anything, they are the collection of some of the most poor, unempowered and downtrodden people you will ever see. Poverty of this scale does not exist in the US. Its unimaginable for Americans to picture if you've never been out of the 1st world.

Also near Cape Town:

One of our freinds (white girl from the US) lives in Joburg. She owns a business and works with all blacks. Gated communities and compounds are more the norm there. The townships and large and sprawling, and often well armed.
Gangs of men w/ AK47s go out and rob and rape. She still loves her adopted city.

Backyard view of her house:

Her driveway: lol

Her neighbor has two fences. Ostriches are in the inner area, and are very lethal to intruders. She has a "rape button" in her house, and had to use it once when some men came over the electric fence. ADT security services there are no-nonsense paramilitary forces. They will fuck you up.

It is a beautiful city none the less, but it is one with deep structural problems of poverty and violence. It is not a place to lose your head.

I could go on with more stories, but enough for today.

What's the point of this? There is so much more out there than you get from the news. As anywhere else, you are only getting a very narrow view and the bigger picture is far richer and far more complicated.

Rape button?

What the fuck...

 

[Bitek]

Rape button?

What the fuck...

A hardline call button to the police/security. Its like a bank has.

You push it, alarms go off on the property and the cavalry comes. Intruders generally run away unless they want to get into gun battles with armored and highly trained and armed security forces.

 

[Noobtastic]

A hardline call button to the police/security. Its like a bank has.

You push it, alarms go off on the property and the cavalry comes. Intruders generally run away unless they want to get into gun battles with armored and highly trained and armed security forces.

You go on and on about how beautiful SA is...the scenery, the cities, the trees...oh, and dont forget the RAPE BUTTON.