Soup Kitchen whom Paul Ryan staged fake photo op without permission is hurting

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Nemesis 1

Dec 30, 2006
What happened to the rage from the posters above , Did seeing obummer working tables. Make them flee. Where is the outrage over obummer working the tables for votes ,, Asses


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Sep 30, 2003
Not only were there calls on Facebook threatening his position and the donations to the charity, according to The Huffington Post in a phone interview with Antel, hundreds of phone calls flooded their office, most of them anonymous. The effect of monetary losses have been big. “It appears to be a substantial amount,” Antal said. “You can rest assured there has been a substantial backlash.” He goes on to say doesn’t understand why donors would take out their frustration over the incident on those who can’t afford to pay for their own meals. “I’m a volunteer,’ he told HuffPo. “I receive zero compensation. Withholding donations is only going to hurt the over 100,000 we serve annually.”

The real story here is how Brian Antel is an idiot.

He doesn't understand why people would take out their frustrations on on poor people when he himself felt it was OK to use poor people to make a political point. Now who exactly is using whom?

I have volunteered for many charitable orgs, working as everything from president to bookkeeper and in between. It's a widely understood fundamental rule not to get your org involved in politics. Since we're split about 50/50 it's guaranteed to be a losing proposition all around, including with your volunteers and donors.

The guy is a boob of epic proportions.

BTW: I think he's still at it because the time between the 1st story breaking and this one is so short I highly doubt any meaningful analysis could be done or any accurate conclusions reached. I smell an attention whore and drama queen.



Elite Member
Dec 23, 2000
What happened to the rage from the posters above , Did seeing obummer working tables. Make them flee. Where is the outrage over obummer working the tables for votes ,, Asses

Did he wash the pots and pans afterwards?


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Dec 23, 2000
Here is one of the few articles that clarifies the issues. Antal failed to note that the volunteer who gave permission was in charge of the kitchen that day. If she did not know that was the policy then it's not Ryan's fault. Also, their bylaws do not specifically state that political photo ops are not allowed.

Ryan did wash dirty dishes during soup kitchen visit
By NBC's Alex Moe and Betsy Cline
LYNCHBURG, VA -- Amid questions and criticisms related to Paul Ryan’s visit this weekend to an Ohio soup kitchen, the charity’s president said the Republican vice presidential candidate did, in fact, scrub dirty dishes though his visit wasn’t officially sanctioned.

The question of whether the Wisconsin congressman cleaned dishes that were actually dirty – as opposed to re-washing already clean dishes so as to get a good photo opportunity -- Mahoning County St. Vincent De Paul Society President Brian Antal clarified that Ryan did clean soiled dishes. This differs from what Antal had told The Washington Post Monday.

Speaking Tuesday morning with NBC News, Antal said he was not on-site when Ryan was at the soup kitchen and attributes his earlier comments that the dishes were clean when Ryan washed them to hearing the details second-hand from a volunteer.

Following a town hall meeting in Youngstown, OH on Saturday, Ryan -- joined by his wife and three kids -- made a quick stop at the St. Vincent De Paul Society shortly after the homeless people had breakfast. There were only volunteers left inside the building by the time Ryan arrived, as his public event ran longer than expected.

After arriving at the soup kitchen -- where Secret Service agents and staff had gathered before the motorcade arrived -- the Ryan family put on white aprons and proceeded to wash dishes for several minutes as cameras and still photographers snapped photos nearby.

In response to questions about Antal’s comments to the Washington Post that Ryan “did nothing” while at the soup kitchen, Antal said his words were mischaracterized. He told NBC News in that Ryan did very little work only compared to the larger context of Saturday morning, when the kitchen fed 180 homeless people breakfast. Antal conceded that Ryan did wash several dirty dishes.

The head of the charity said a campaign aide who had sought permission for the visit prior to Ryan's visit was granted access by a volunteer, rather than any person of authority at the soup kitchen. The volunteer, Antal said, had no authority to allow or deny the Republican vice presidential candidate's stop.

Ryan has made several quick stops that are unannounced to the general public in the past while campaigning across the country. In response to questions about the stop in the battleground state of Ohio that has raised questions in the media, campaign spokesman Michael Steel said: “It was a great opportunity to highlight the importance of volunteerism and local charities.”

Antal says he is speaking to the media because the organization is non-political and is concerned that being connected to the campaign could negatively impact their support.

The confusion, though, hasn't stopped Democrats from trying to turn Ryan's stop into a political issue.

The Washington Post posted an updated article online Tuesday morning noting: “The head of an Ohio charity who criticized Mitt Romney’s campaign for staging a 'photo-op' at one of the group’s soup kitchens has consistently voted in Democratic primaries.”

The left continues the lies and unconfirmed loss of donors.

Here is great reply/comment to the above.

It sounds like the reason for the drop in donations is Brian Antal’s loud and partisan reaction to Paul Ryan’s visit rather than the visit itself.

As the article notes Paul Ryan’s campaign obtained permission to visit the soup kitchen from a volunteer in charge of the kitchen. If it was improper for that volunteer to allow politicians on site Antal could have quietly reviewed the charities’ policies with the volunteers. He could also have quietly talked to Paul Ryan’s campaign to explain his concerns and request that they not use pictures taken at the soup kitchen in their campaign.

What Brian Antal did instead was loudly go to the Washington Post to denounce Paul Ryan, falsely claiming that Ryan’s campaign had “ramrodded their way in” to the charity and had not washed any dishes. The story he told was deliberately calculated to portray Paul Ryan in the worst possible light.

This is not how a director who is interested in saving his charity from the appearance of partisanship would act; rather, it is consistent with the actions of a partisan intent on harming the reputation of a political opponent no matter what the cost to the charity he administers. I came away with the impression that the organization he runs has a partisan leaning, and am not surprised that those who support charities might have the same impression.