The dumbies will believe it too, but the people who are ready to switch their votes are smarter then that, so all Bush is doing is showing what a phoney he is and always has been.
Jaskalas
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Spin? He has not, and will continue to not change his position on "staying the course" as he sees it. Our troops will remain in Iraq under Bush. If this BS (that the Bush haters are frothing at the mouth over) is true, then we'd not be staying the course and our troops would be coming home.
Wishing thinking on your part, perhaps, but it isn?t happening.
Jaskalas
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Ah yes, separated from the whole statement so you can take it out of context and argue with it at your side.
I've already posted the relevant train of thought in this statement.
That is his whole response to the question, which is the basis of what I am arguing as its meaning. To each his own.
Jaskalas
lol...how easily confused you are. "Stay the course" has always represented a strategy. Adjusting tactics has little or nothing to do with strategy. If you don't know the difference between the 2 words, I can't see how you can even know what you are discussing.
If you don't have an analog version, I reccommend Dictionary.com.
lol...how easily confused you are. "Stay the course" has always represented a strategy. Adjusting tactics has little or nothing to do with strategy. If you don't know the difference between the 2 words, I can't see how you can even know what you are discussing.
If you don't have an analog version, I reccommend Dictionary.com.
Not to make too much of a point about it, but maybe you'd like to question the credibility of site that's the source for all of the quotes in my earlier post where Bush utters the magic words, "stay the course." It's a little out of the way site called Whitehouse.gov. :shocked:
Ah! It's all so clear, now. Bush says, "stay the course," but it doesn't mean "stay the course" because he redefines his words after the fact, the same way he redefined each of his lame ass excuses for starting the war once he was busted for the lies he offered as the previous lame ass excuse he offered.
It all makes perfect sense, once you understand that he and his entire administration are liars, and those who continue to try to excuse or sidestep or distract from the words he spoke are lying as much as their lame ass Commando In Chief. :thumbsdown: :frown: :thumbsdown:
Jaskalas, I can respect that you are pro-Bush, and I don't have a problem with that.
However, if you read the quotes in the link, and then listen to his quote in talking with Stephanapolus - if you can't see the irony in his response, then in all seriousness you should just stop posting in this thread.
The biggest danger in politics - from actual politicians to the voters themselves, are people that cannot see 2 sides of an issue - that cannot adapt their ways of thinking, and that cannot admit when the 'side' they represent is wrong.
However, if you read the quotes in the link, and then listen to his quote in talking with Stephanapolus - if you can't see the irony in his response, then in all seriousness you should just stop posting in this thread.
The biggest danger in politics - from actual politicians to the voters themselves, are people that cannot see 2 sides of an issue - that cannot adapt their ways of thinking, and that cannot admit when the 'side' they represent is wrong.
Pens1566
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Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Oh, so you're convinced you're right, that he has changed his mind, and that our troops are coming home, by an order from Bush?
I'm convinced that he doesn't realize he's been videotaped for the last 2 years saying exactly the opposite of what he told Steph.
Funny comment I saw on this:
"Captain, we're headed straight for an iceberg; what do we do?!"
"Stay the course. We can't afford to show weakness."
"Captain, we're headed straight for an iceberg; what do we do?!"
"Stay the course. We can't afford to show weakness."
Well when your borderline mentally challenged and have a history of substance abuse, perhaps in his mind he never really thought he said stay the course.
Jaskalas
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Yes, you'd like to put words in my mouth. Easier to debate your own straw man. There's nothing to question, except the very frothing at the mouth that all of you are doing over your chance to pounce on Bush's ignorant choice of words.
Read your own quote, for what you don't understand.
How can you believe he has changed his position on this?
I've already twice quoted the relevant part in his denial of staying on a failed course. NEVER has he referred to not keeping troops in.
You're playing word games, and revealing your true motivation behind this. It?s clear as day that you hate him for going into Iraq, and stirring up this BS over his ignorant choice of words is your little way of stabbing at him for Iraq.
WTF did you get the idea of any excuse from? I'm telling you that in your blind hatred of Bush that you're frothing at the mouth over nothing. He is keeping the troops in Iraq. That, even from your own quoted statements from him, is what staying the course is by definition.
Then in the recent quote with STEPHANOPOULOS, you can very clearly see the intent of his words has no relation to pulling the troops out before the mission is complete.
My dislike and disgust for George W. Bush are real, but they're anything but blind. They're based on the reality of the wholesale destruction that pissant weasel has done to the nation and our Constitution and the fact that he squandered tens or possibly hundreds of thousands of lives and trillions of dollars on nothing but lies.
As to how you can see, "we?ve never been 'stay the course" and "stay the course" as anything other than a complete flip flop, I'm prettty sure most people think it sounds very much like a herd of centipedes doing the hokey pokey in rubber thong sandals on the boardwalk. :laugh:
I love how people are now going to interpret "stay the course".
Seriously people, his plan from the beginning was to split Iraqi into 3 sections and invite one of the Axis of Evil into the equation and another terrorist state into the equation to figure things out.
Or was the course to stick around and get slaughtered?
Wait, I thought the course was to improve the way of life of the Iraqi people.
Damn, so many courses, it's like a big fekkin fork in the road. Of course, he always knew which fork he was going to hit, because he is ordained by God, you know.
But as we have all figured out, with Jaskalas' help, Bush is so intricate and complex that we never know what he means. We are too stupid to figure out such a mastermind of battlefield tactics, fiscal policy, and international diplomacy.
Seriously people, his plan from the beginning was to split Iraqi into 3 sections and invite one of the Axis of Evil into the equation and another terrorist state into the equation to figure things out.
Or was the course to stick around and get slaughtered?
Wait, I thought the course was to improve the way of life of the Iraqi people.
Damn, so many courses, it's like a big fekkin fork in the road. Of course, he always knew which fork he was going to hit, because he is ordained by God, you know.
But as we have all figured out, with Jaskalas' help, Bush is so intricate and complex that we never know what he means. We are too stupid to figure out such a mastermind of battlefield tactics, fiscal policy, and international diplomacy.
I remember in 2004 how these bastards mocked John Kerry for correctly saying nuance matters in communication - and claiming to be 'straight talkers - no nuance'.
There are many extreme examples of their misleading 'nuance', but look at this White House press conference:
So after years of his saying he will 'stay the course', reaping the political benefit of looking consistent, at the first change of wind when it's bad politics, he stops using it.
He's not staying the course on 'staying the course'. I've always praised leaders for changing course when they make mistakes - which they forfeit when they attack opponents for the same, and then hypocritcally try to deny doing it themselves when they do it. It's like Bush 41 - he was right to abandon his 'read his lips' pledge, and wrong to have made it and used it politically in the campaign.
There are many extreme examples of their misleading 'nuance', but look at this White House press conference:
So after years of his saying he will 'stay the course', reaping the political benefit of looking consistent, at the first change of wind when it's bad politics, he stops using it.
He's not staying the course on 'staying the course'. I've always praised leaders for changing course when they make mistakes - which they forfeit when they attack opponents for the same, and then hypocritcally try to deny doing it themselves when they do it. It's like Bush 41 - he was right to abandon his 'read his lips' pledge, and wrong to have made it and used it politically in the campaign.
What Tony Snow really meant:
George Bush is no longer staying the "stay the course" course. Of course, that means he's staying the course away the course he said he was going to stay, even though it means he's not saying he's staying the course he intended to stay.
Once Karl Rove thinks Bush has "stay" down, he'll move on to more complex issues like "sit up," "beg," "fetch" and "heel." :laugh:
Of course, it would be even better if we could just get him to give up even staying. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
George Bush is no longer staying the "stay the course" course. Of course, that means he's staying the course away the course he said he was going to stay, even though it means he's not saying he's staying the course he intended to stay.
Once Karl Rove thinks Bush has "stay" down, he'll move on to more complex issues like "sit up," "beg," "fetch" and "heel." :laugh:
Of course, it would be even better if we could just get him to give up even staying. :thumbsup:
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