Sorry guys, update. I need advice on which 2 gb set is better?

[bushwickbill]

I currently have 2 GB of Kingston Ram DDR 2 ,1GB is 533 the other GB is 667. Now I have found a guy who will trade me my Ram for Either one of these two sets:2 GB set Patriot PSD2 1G DDR 2 667Mhz, or 2 GB set Transcend JM667QL-1g DDR 667MHZ.?? Basically he will trade my ram and a bit of cash, he is will help me out. My problem is, I can't get my CPU to go above 2.8GHZ because my 533 DDR 2 Stick of Kingston won't go past 710MHZ. So which of these two brands will overclock higher? Do you think either set will hit 800Mhz?? I have to find this out as fast as possible, he wants to trade ASAP. Any one have experience with either of these brands. I realize I will get a bit of a performance increase with having a matched set. But I need to know which set is better. This guy seems to think I won't see speeds above what I am already getting. My Ram right now tops out at around 700-710MHZ, But that is maxed at 2.1 volts. I am searching for answers aswell but some added advice is very valuable regarding this decision. Thanx again

 

[newschool]

For gaming, RAM isnt THAT important. Its more about the graphic card. So I dont recommand you change your 533 ram for 667... if you change go for 800mhz if you wanna see a "difference". The best DDR2 ram for overclocking is made with micron chips.
Micron owns Crucial, so I recommand to go for this brand.

2GB Crucial Ballistix , 800mhz 4-4-4-12 at 1.9v, warranty up to 2.2V
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16820146565

 

[Quiksilver]

Originally posted by: newschool
For gaming, RAM isnt THAT important. Its more about the graphic card. So I dont recommand you change your 533 ram for 667... if you change go for 800mhz if you wanna see a "difference". The best DDR2 ram for overclocking is made with micron chips.
Micron owns Crucial, so I recommand to go for this brand.

2GB Crucial Ballistix , 800mhz 4-4-4-12 at 1.9v, warranty up to 2.2V
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16820146565

Kind of true, there are some games that do hog up memory but not all of them also if you prefer something more flashy (LED's) newegg has a nice promotional thing going on for 2GB Crucial Ballistix Tracers (Custom made to promote some event their having).

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16820148144

I order 4 GB's of it myself. Unfortunately it's for a build in the work's I haven't had a chance to check them out but here's a few packaging photo's (Bar code and UPC numbers red-ed out cause I haven't done the MIR's yet. Just got them yesterday >_>).

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/1749/dscf0237uj2.jpg
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/7346/dscf0236xt4.jpg
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/9345/dscf0235ux7.jpg

 

[BonzaiDuck]

No comment on Quiksilver's MIR process and Newegg's household limit -- more power to you, Quiksilver.

Quiksilver put me onto these earlier, asking if anyone had insights into precisely "what they are." We checked the Crucial web-site and used the part of the product code following the word "KIT" from NewEgg's advertisement. They are rebadged DDR2-800 Tracers. And the ironic thing about them is this: If you run a search at Newegg for Crucial memory for the DDR2-800 spec, the two kits come up in the list within two items of each other. The "Tracers" are selling for $132 per 2GB kit, and the "LanFests" are selling for less than $100 -- with a $25 MIR making the net price (excluding sales tax considerations) about $75.

But they are the same modules. If one were to resell them, I wouldn't recommend advertising them as "tracers," but rather as "rebadged Tracers." So -- truth in advertising, yeah -- but they are the same modules, with the same specs, the same over-clock potential and the same "LED's-for-bling-bling."

 

[BonzaiDuck]

Looking at the OP's post, I feel compelled to give my "opinion."

Choosing RAM For A Workstation Or Game-box

In setting up your budget for building a PC, the best bargain of consensus here would suggest getting the "budget model" processor known to have high overclock potential -- that saves you some buckets of ducats. For me, I'm more inclined to look at the middle of the product line -- hence my first C2D build began with an E6600 processor.

But for RAM, I wouldn't settle for fitting tight constraints to that item. I'd get the best quality known for the highest over-clock spec and the best "elasticity-of-latency-settings" as reputed by other users and forums. THEN -- I'd look for the best price on the chosen modules.

Second, I wouldn't mix memory of two different specs in the system. Frankly, I wouldn't mix two different manufactures of memory, either. I wouldn't even mix them if they had approximately the same speed and latency spec, because they are going to vary in design within the DDR2 specification. Here, those "LanFests" and "Tracers" are an exception, because we know that they're the same modules, and that they've just been rebadged for NewEgg's upcoming "shindig."

Also, I would shoot for a higher speed spec; (rated DDR2--[Mhz] ) than what I intend to see the modules running at. This assumes an important caveat: that the manufacturer-spec latencies are extremely elastic and can be tightened well below that spec for slower "Mhz speeds." This generation of memories using particular D9 Micron black-parts seem to be "very elastic." For instance, on my set of DDR2-1000 Ballistix, the latency spec for the 1000 Mhz setting is 5,5,5,15. Testing by various reviewers and labs shows that the equivalent spec for speeds at 800Mhz is 4,4,4,12 or 4,4,4,10. But at speeds between 667 and 720, I can run them at 3,3,3,6 to 3,4,4,8, and at speeds above 720 and below 800, at 4,3,4,8 or even 3,4,4,10.

My best guess on the rebadged Tracers and those actually sold as "Tracers" -- equally -- is that they are capable of the same low latencies as my Ballistix DDR2-1000 modules.

 

[Quiksilver]

Originally posted by: BonzaiDuck
No comment on Quiksilver's MIR process and Newegg's household limit -- more power to you, Quiksilver.

Meh, I didn't say I was gonna use both MIR's it was just the reply I gave to that guy who was gonna use his school as his address.

More than likely I won't even use them cause I'm just that lazy to mail it. lol.

 

[Xvys]

I have a similar setup to you Bushwickbill with a P5B/E6300, but I have the Crucial ram and can o/c to 1066 MHz, (533FSB x 7 = 3730 MHz cpu) on air, non-modded. The P5B is a tremendous o/c'ing m/b, so it is likely your ram holding you back. That sucks, as I have mismatched DDR2-4200 ram sticks that run fine at 880-900MHz with this m/b.

I would set the ram timings on automatic enabled or at 5-6-6-18, when starting to o/c, to find your cpu's maximum MHz. Try the cpu multiplyer at 7X, with the FSB at 401 or higher to enable the 1:1 memory divider.

Which pair to choose? Hard to say, but I would take the Patriot, but I'm not that familiar with those models. You can also buy 1G of Crucial 667 ram for $19, now.