Sooo ABit dumped Nvidia and went to ATi.

[Zen0ps]

Ouch. Not only dump Nvidia, but totally switched sides and went to ATi (this is still a rumor or what?)

Even Asus didn't go that far.

I'm beginning to think that Nvidia cores are fundamentally weak because they rely too heavily on raw local memory bandwidth. I mean, the original GF3/4's were great because the memory that they were matched with kept up with the GPU.

I started to become concerned when I saw the GF5800 using DDR2 about 2 years before Nvidia should have even considered it. Now I see 2.2 to 2.5ns memory Nvidia videocards barely keeping up with 2.8 and 3.3ns cards from ATi (add insult, a lot of ATi card have no heatsinks on the memory, some entire cards are heatsink only cooled too.)

All this seems to point to a core deficiency that relies far too heavily on memory speed that is just not advancing anywhere near as fast and Nvidia needs it to be competitive.

 

[Tnvolsfan]

I have heard that as rumor only. I have seen no articles written on it.

 

[Keysplayr]

Zen, that is most likely due to ATI having 8 pipes and Nvidia's 4x2 configuration.
For example:

Look at a Radeon 9500pro Built by ATI core/mem 275/540 8 pipes 128 bit mem interface
Look at a Radeon 9600XT Built by ATI core/mem 500/600 4 pipes 128 bit mem interface

Both of these cards are very close in performance but you can see that the 9600XT needs to have almost
twice the core speed to stay comptetitive with the 9500pro. Its a way of explaining why nvidia runs at much
higher clocks to achieve competitive performance with ATI's top dogs. The next gen nvidia cards with have more pipes
and only then will you see better performance from lower clock speeds.

Believe me. Nvidia cores are not weak. just a different architecture. Like comparing AMD to Intel. Its like saying the Pentium 4 3.2 GHz
CPU sucks. But of course it does not. Just because two companies attack differently doesn't mean one is better than the other.

 

[Insomniak]

Oooh! An ATi vs. Nvidia thread! What a novel and fresh concept!

 

[Genx87]

Abit?

Not impressed!

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: Genx87
Abit?

Not impressed!

IMHO, abit is one of the top top notch computer companies

secondly, isnt this old news? abit 9600XT and 9800XT have been out for a while now

 

[Tab]

Whoa, this is some good news

 

[Mem]

Ouch. Not only dump Nvidia, but totally switched sides and went to ATi (this is still a rumor or what?)

Go here ,wonder if cost has anything to do with it ? Also we don`t know what the main reason/dispute between Nvidia and Abit is all about.

Anyway Epox are now going to make Nvidia cards .

EPoX VGA graphic cards bring a new level of graphic performance to desktop PCs delivering new generation 3D experience. From GeForce MX440/MX4000 to FX5200 and even the highest performance FX5950 Ultra, EPoX provides a full range to satisfy your performance needs! EPoX VGA cards are based upon the chipsets from Nvidia to continue our successful relationship.

So works out even I guess.

 

[cm123]

I think rumor, this seems to point to that as well...

Sources close to NVIDIA in the United States and Asia denied presumable cancellation of partnership between the Santa Clara, California-based IC designer and well-known Taiwanese mainboard manufacturer. Apparently, both companies will continue to collaborate in future.

?It sounds and looks like a misinformation. NVIDIA?s representative in Taiwan and the USA are not informed about this decision. ABIT has just gotten samples for nForce3, so, I guess we have to wait and see,? said a source wanting to preserve its anonymity.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/mainboards/display/20040109114807.html

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/mainboards/display/20040109114807.html

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: Tabb
Whoa, this is some good news

why? it would be better for the consumer for them to do both

 

[Challenger]

Ouch. Not only dump Nvidia, but totally switched sides and went to ATi (this is still a rumor or what?)

Asus makes ATi products

 

[jim1976]

Originally posted by: cm123
I think rumor, this seems to point to that as well...

Sources close to NVIDIA in the United States and Asia denied presumable cancellation of partnership between the Santa Clara, California-based IC designer and well-known Taiwanese mainboard manufacturer. Apparently, both companies will continue to collaborate in future.

?It sounds and looks like a misinformation. NVIDIA?s representative in Taiwan and the USA are not informed about this decision. ABIT has just gotten samples for nForce3, so, I guess we have to wait and see,? said a source wanting to preserve its anonymity.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/mainboards/display/20040109114807.html

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/mainboards/display/20040109114807.html

If this is true, and it seems logical to me, then it would be hard for Abit to stop producing Nvidia based gpus.
It seems more like a business trick to me.
Nvidia has the asset of providing mobo chipsets as well, so Abit would be unlikely to risk loosing such a partnership.