Sony stops making anti-piracy CDs

[The Linuxator]

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But I think they will come back with a legal solution, I think the part where the spokesman says " Sony said it had a right to stop people illegally copying music, but added that the halt was precautionary.

"We also intend to re-examine all aspects of our content protection initiative to be sure that it continues to meet our goals of security and ease of consumer use," the company said in a statement. " is a clear indicator that they are thinking of a legal come back

 

[YoshiSato]

Its only part of their legal defense. They are still going to lose the lawsuit.

 

[The Linuxator]

Originally posted by: YoshiSato
Its only part of their legal defense. They are still going to lose the lawsuit.

Well when I said they will come back with a legal solution, I meant after they lose those cases, they will learn their lesson, then they will consult their legal team and US law concerning these matters and then they will charge at ppls PCs , ohh I am so glad I don't buy CDs (especially from SONY) and even more glad that I use Linux.

 

[3chordcharlie]

Originally posted by: The Linuxator

Originally posted by: YoshiSato
Its only part of their legal defense. They are still going to lose the lawsuit.

Well when I said they will come back with a legal solution, I meant after they lose those cases, they will learn their lesson, then they will consult their legal team and US law concerning these matters and then they will charge at ppls PCs , ohh I am so glad I don't buy CDs (especially from SONY) and even more glad that I use Linux.

They're the record industry... they might lose the lawsuit, but they'll just pay to have the law changed to make it legal.

BTW, did forcibly uninstalling the rootkit qualify as an offence under the DMCA? Or does that not in itself allow copying, so it's okay?

 

[cumhail]

Regardless of whether or not they really stop... too little, too late. I want nothing to do with them for the foreseeable future.

cumhail

 

[digiram]

Originally posted by: cumhail
Regardless of whether or not they really stop... too little, too late. I want nothing to do with them for the foreseeable future.

cumhail

Same here. No more Sony products for me.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: The Linuxator

Originally posted by: YoshiSato
Its only part of their legal defense. They are still going to lose the lawsuit.

Well when I said they will come back with a legal solution, I meant after they lose those cases, they will learn their lesson, then they will consult their legal team and US law concerning these matters and then they will charge at ppls PCs , ohh I am so glad I don't buy CDs (especially from SONY) and even more glad that I use Linux.

They won't lose anything in the U.S. and certainly will not lose any money.

The U.S. and the RIAA is backing Sony.

 

[YoshiSato]

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Originally posted by: The Linuxator

Originally posted by: YoshiSato
Its only part of their legal defense. They are still going to lose the lawsuit.

Well when I said they will come back with a legal solution, I meant after they lose those cases, they will learn their lesson, then they will consult their legal team and US law concerning these matters and then they will charge at ppls PCs , ohh I am so glad I don't buy CDs (especially from SONY) and even more glad that I use Linux.

They're the record industry... they might lose the lawsuit, but they'll just pay to have the law changed to make it legal.

BTW, did forcibly uninstalling the rootkit qualify as an offence under the DMCA? Or does that not in itself allow copying, so it's okay?

Under the DMCA bypassing digital security is illegal.
There are also other laws where hacking computer systems is illegal. But I really want to see Sony punished under a law in which they created and used to terrorize people.

 

[3chordcharlie]

Originally posted by: YoshiSato
Under the DMCA bypassing digital security is illegal.
There are also other laws where hacking computer systems is illegal. But I really want to see Sony punished under a law in which they created and used to terrorize people.

I was asking if end-users could conceivably be charged under the DMCA for removing the rootkits from their systems.

This is just an interest thing for me, I'm not subject to the DMCA in Canada.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Did forcibly uninstalling the rootkit qualify as an offence under the DMCA?

That's a valid question.

Under the letter of the law, yes.

However Sony committed a criminal act by hacking end users PC's to begin with though.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: YoshiSato

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Originally posted by: The Linuxator

Originally posted by: YoshiSato
Its only part of their legal defense. They are still going to lose the lawsuit.

Well when I said they will come back with a legal solution, I meant after they lose those cases, they will learn their lesson, then they will consult their legal team and US law concerning these matters and then they will charge at ppls PCs , ohh I am so glad I don't buy CDs (especially from SONY) and even more glad that I use Linux.

They're the record industry... they might lose the lawsuit, but they'll just pay to have the law changed to make it legal.

BTW, did forcibly uninstalling the rootkit qualify as an offence under the DMCA? Or does that not in itself allow copying, so it's okay?

Under the DMCA bypassing digital security is illegal.
There are also other laws where hacking computer systems is illegal. But I really want to see Sony punished under a law in which they created and used to terrorize people.

I am not a lawyer, but my guess is that the software protections the DMCA applies to (not all "digital security", btw) do not extend to users protecting themselves against software that is itself illegal. Installing a rootkit on someone's PC without their knowledge is very illegal, I don't see how any law would protect you from protecting yourself against this action.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Did forcibly uninstalling the rootkit qualify as an offence under the DMCA?

That's a valid question.

Under the letter of the law, yes.

However Sony committed a criminal act by hacking end users PC's to begin with though.

I think any court case dealing with this would find against Sony's illegal activities being protected from users under the DMCA.

 

[0roo0roo]

its nothing. they aren't recalling any of the probably milions of cd's they've sold with this bullsh*t which will continue to infect peoples computers.. and they havn't promised to change their ways in the future. heck look how they put out that first patch that didn't remove the rootkit, just the cloaking. then the sony president of bmg said "Most people, I think, don't even know what a rootkit is, so why should they care about it," he asked? "The software is designed to protect our CDs from unauthorized copying, ripping."
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20051109-5542.html arrogant scum. don't give them another cent.

original blog that discovered it
http://www.sysinternals.com/blog/2005/10/sony-rootkits-and-digital-rights.html
more here http://www.theregister.co.uk/security/
drm trojan
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/11/10/sony_drm_trojan/

 

[Thump553]

Don't kid yourself that Sony learned a lesson. They stopped because they got caught red-handed doing something that caused a huge negative public outcry. I'd say their motion was 30% legal and 70% PR damage control, with absolutely no remorse or change in philosophy.

Meanwhile Sony has essentially nothing to remedy the damage they have already done to millions of its unsuspecting consumers or recall their defective products, apologize, or publically institute meaningful steps to prevent futre such action. ALL of those are essential to any first actions to remedy this.

<-- still intends to never buy any Sony products until a meaningful remedy

 

[0roo0roo]

yup, i'm so soured on sony it would take a miracle for me to want to give em money again.

 

[dmcowen674]

Many in here will atest that I warned about this more than two years ago on here.

I had a thread on this running for a long time.

There was no interest especially from the Pro-Corporate whoring Republicans on here.

The others just were apathetic and said this wouldn't happen.

I hope many of those are the ones infected with this vile. :laugh: