Sony Lawsuits have started

Banzai042

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Now all we need is for this to be widely reported in the US, or better yet, to have a huge class action suit against sony in the US. Get it reported in the US that sony is making it technically illegal to use their CD's with IPods and i'm sure people will get pretty pissed pretty quickly. I'd love to see what this does to copyright laws, probably won't help things for sony that much (crosses fingers).
 

cruiser1338

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Good. Someone got a spare Sony Music CD with this stuff on it? Just for research purposes of course. JK :p

Seriously. Companies are taking this whole copy-protection too far. Half the reason that it is "necessary" is because their stuff is way too overpriced. CDs cost about 15cents a piece to comsumers. Factor in estimated sales, and studio costs, and royalties, and the rest of that, I'm sure that doesn't amount to $15. TWIT did this a week or two ago, there's upwards of a 100% profit margin on this stuff. Take them for all they are worth!
 

Remy XO

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Damn things havent been good with Sony in the past few years. I bet Samsung becomes the new Sony.
 

YoshiSato

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Originally posted by: Remy XO
Damn things havent been good with Sony in the past few years. I bet Samsung becomes the new Sony.

You should see how Sony Online Entertainment screw some Star Wars galaxies players. The pushed an expansion pack for 30 bucks. The day AFTER it went live SOE says it's changing the MMORPG into a first person shooter.
The expansion is now worthless.
 

Cerb

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Originally posted by: Banzai042
Now all we need is for this to be widely reported in the US, or better yet, to have a huge class action suit against sony in the US. Get it reported in the US that sony is making it technically illegal to use their CD's with IPods and i'm sure people will get pretty pissed pretty quickly. I'd love to see what this does to copyright laws, probably won't help things for sony that much (crosses fingers).
Sorry for the hijack, but why does everyone go straight to this being about an Ipod? Ipods are secondary.

It affects a users of Windows PCs, which, BTW, might even use Network Walkman, made by their cousin company. What those users do with the music is irrelavent, as long as we still have fair use.

I hope someone in the U.S. starts a lawsuit, and gets the EFF involved :). The only Sony CDs I'd be tempted to buy are too old for copy protection (I'm still missing a couple mid-90s Ozzy remasters--the '02-'03 ones are remixes).
 

fornax

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Sony should be forced to pay $8500 for every CD that had this hacking software, and some jail terms for its managers won't hurt either. Of course, we know that you're only a hacker if you're a poor teenager or a grandma, but if you're big corporation you're only prtotecting your rights.
 

her209

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The outlandish monetary penalties rule should be applied here as well.
 
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Originally posted by: her209
The outlandish monetary penalties rule should be applied here as well.

True, it should. Given that Sony's already lost 20% of their business in the last year (w00t!) I would love to see what a big lawsuit would do to their financials :)

One might note that the big reason Sony is putting a BluRay drive in Playstation 3 is because BD-ROM has big time security embedded to make the big movie and music houses happy, meanwhile the Consumer will be locked out of ALL fair-uses of the media they buy.

Jason
 

ajf3

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It'd be cool if this is somehow kosher because of the dmca and causes focus on it... that's what really needs to be addressed.
 

Cerb

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Originally posted by: ajf3
It'd be cool if this is somehow kosher because of the dmca and causes focus on it... that's what really needs to be addressed.
Yes. Imagine, if one line of the whole thing is wrong (viewed at 5:4 as unconstitutional), the whole act could be turned into wasted paper :). Probably a pipe dream, but fine one to have.
 

0roo0roo

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<--will try to boycott sony here

wonder how many companies are owned by sony though grr
 

YoshiSato

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Originally posted by: ajf3
It'd be cool if this is somehow kosher because of the dmca and causes focus on it... that's what really needs to be addressed.

Actually the method Sony used to protect their CDs might be invoilation of the DMCA. The part where by passing digitial security, which is what the installation application does.