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Sony CPD-G400 or Samsung SyncMaster 900NF?!?

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JellyBaby, yep, I can see the damper wires all right. But they are very subtle, almost invisible compared to older aperture-grille CRT's. You need a rather bright, uniform color to see them at all. So the only potential problem is in perfectionist Photoshop image editing, but even there your eyes learn to cancel out the lines. And I appreciate your intellectual freedom regarding my female icon 🙂
 
The Iiyama model comparable to the 900NF is $450, their higher priced model has USB and spkrs, but both models are exactly the same otherwise. So the Iiyama comes in at $450 vs. $422-450 for the Samsung 900NF.

Requested specs:

Iiyama: 1024x768 - 140Hz
1280x1024 - 107
1600x1200 - 92
B/W - 300MHz

Samsung: 1024x768 - 119Hz
1280x1024 - 85 error in Samsung's spec?
1600x1200 - 89
B/W - 240MHz
 
Midnight Rambler:

Samsung didn't list the max for 1280x1024, it'll most likely be 100Hz at 1280x1024. Can you kindly point me to a place where you can get Iiyama for $450? Is it the i90A model you're speaking of? I have a question about it, whats the point of creating two identical lines of monitors and set one's price much higher than the other? You're always nit picking me and bursting my bubble, you know its sometimes better to just let it go and let me have a night that I can enjoy.



Leo V:

The G400 does 60Hz @2048x1536, the Samsung does 69Hz @ 2048x1536, I guess that will count as having higher spec.
 
Very close, but you need to hack it. If you hack the Samsung it can go well into the 70Hz+ figures for 2048x1536.
 
LXi, this is very important: Please don't take the term "hack" out of context. This is NOT overclocking or operating over spec.

Much rather, hacking here means overcoming the natural stupidity of Windows drivers (which only have dumb presets like 60,75,85Hz) to take full advantage of the hardware--without necessarily violating its specifications. It's as if Windows underclocked your Celeron667 to 600MHz because it only likes 100MHz increments, and you forced tho stupid thing back to 666, or 666.6667MHz.

If the Samsung officially does 69Hz, that's exactly its maximum, just like 67Hz is Sony's maximum within spec. If you don't mind damaging it, you may very well "overclock" your Samsung to 70+ Hz, but its real refreshrate @2048x1536 is just 2Hz above the Sony. (Which BTW is clever enough to block any such "overclocked" modes.)
 
Im not sure if Samsung does 69Hz officially, but I heard people saying Windows gives them the option for 70Hz when running 2048x1536. I think there is more to discover deep in that 900NF.
 
LXi, I think I know what you're talking about: Windows rounds up instead of down. It has happened to me with different drivers, too. This simply means the Samsung supports ~69.5Hz and the drivers cannot always support it properly. I have the same issues with 1280x1024 @100Hz, the monitor works with some drivers (at exactly max 107KHz horizantal), but displays "Out of range" with others (which stupidly try to set 100.1Hz).

Custom res/refresh is long overdue, but at least Linux always has it.
 
I see, anyway, why are we arguing over something thats as little as 2Hz? The important thing about 900NF is it's price advantage.
 
"why are we arguing over something thats as little as 2Hz?"

LOL, because it's fun 😀 I have to agree, [edit:] oops-->$75 savings nothing to scoff at. Since I'm a qualia freak though, I tend to invest heavily in human interaction peripherals (monitors, speakers/headphones, keybd, mouse, joystick). I'm very concerned with the impact of prolonged PC usage on my health, perhaps to the point of superstition 😱
 
<<because it's fun>>

Indeed it is, sometimes we get bored and we get a 2Hz argument going, its very interesting.


Actually I also want to back that price a little bit, Amazon has the 900NF for $420, minus the $15 coupon will give it a $405 price tag, so its about a $100 advantage. Im not certain where Dynamix3D found the G400 for as little as $506, every other place I looked(Onvia, Buy.com, Amazon.com) are in the high $500s.
 
i checked them both running side by side off of a matrox dual head running Q3 (1024x768). i ended up buying the sony out of brand loyalty. but visually there's only a slight difference (not saying that one looks &quot;better&quot; than the other), as each had a slightly different &quot;look&quot; but they both looked great. i think if price is your guide then it's obvious. reliability-wise it's still a toss-up. service-wise i get better service from sony, but that's a local comparison.(they provide loaners) sungs' don't. and if recall, sony's come with a three year warranty, don't know about sungs.
 
I'm also in the market for a new 19inch monitor and I have a couple of questions.


1) Since the Samsung uses Mitsubishi's tube, does the Samsung monitors have the two vertical lines that are present in Sony's FD tubes?

2) Has anyone seen or own MAG's 810FD monitor?

3) The new monitor will mostly be used for games and DVD movie watching. Any recommendations?



-Jimbo
 
<<1) Since the Samsung uses Mitsubishi's tube, does the Samsung monitors have the two vertical lines that are present in Sony's FD tubes?>>

Yes, the Mitsu tube is also Aperture Grille, and all Aperture Grille tubes have the damper wires.



<<2) Has anyone seen or own MAG's 810FD monitor?>>

I have seen it, it looked pretty nice, although not quite as good as Sony or KDS. The price is certainly very attractive.



<<3) The new monitor will mostly be used for games and DVD movie watching. Any recommendations?>>

Well you know what I'll recommend.


 
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