SONY caught pirating software

Dari

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Do as I say, not as I do. SONY has its own Larry Craig/Ted Haggard/Elliot Spitzer moment.

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http://arstechnica.com/news.ar...d-for-using-warez.html

Sony BMG is no stranger to piracy. As one of the most vocal supporters of the RIAA and IFPI antipiracy efforts, the company has some experience hunting down and punishing consumers who don't pay for its products. The company is getting some experience on the other side of the table, however, now that it's being sued for software piracy.

PointDev, a French software company that makes Windows administration tools, received a call from a Sony BMG IT employee for support. After Sony BMG supplied a pirated license code for Ideal Migration, one of PointDev's products, the software maker was able to mandate a seizure of Sony BMG's assets. The subsequent raid revealed that software was illegally installed on four of Sony BMG's servers. The Business Software Alliance, however, believes that up to 47 percent of the software installed on Sony BMG's computers could be pirated.

These are some pretty serious?not to mention ironic?allegations against a company that's gone so far as to install malware on consumers' computers in the name of preventing piracy.

While PointDev is claiming ?300,000 (over $475,000) in damages in its suit against Sony BMG, Agustoni Paul-Henry, PointDev's CEO, says (from a Google translation of a French report) that this is more about principle than money: "We are forced to watch every week if key software pirates are not [sic] on the Internet. We are a small company of six employees. Instead of trying to protect us, we could spend this time to develop ourselves."

Paul-Henry thinks Sony BMG's piracy of PointDev's products is the fault of more than just a single employee (again, translated): "I think piracy is linked to the policy of a company. If the employee has the necessary funding to buy the software he needs, he will. If this is not the case, he will find alternative ways, as the work must be done in one way or another."

Certainly, one wonders what led to Sony BMG to steal PointDev's product in the first place. It's a safe bet that the company can afford to pay for the necessary licenses, which leaves sheer laziness as the most likely culprit. In any event, it's absolutely inexcusable for a company that has been at the forefront of the antipiracy fight, going so far as to surreptitiously install rootkits on its customers' PCs.

Further Reading
01net - The French site that reported the lawsuit
Found via Zeropaid

 

nakedfrog

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Dang, you'd think such a large company would have auditing policies in place...
 

Snapster

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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Dang, you'd think such a large company would have auditing policies in place...

You'd think so. For this type of lapse they should be made example of, turn about is fair play.
 

ultimatebob

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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Dang, you'd think such a large company would have auditing policies in place...

You would think that, but large bureaucracies like Sony often have departmental budgets that can be quite strict. I wouldn't be surprised if this guy tried to buy this software legally, only to have his request rejected by a mid-level manager.
 

JS80

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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Dang, you'd think such a large company would have auditing policies in place...

It's Sony BMG. If they have auditing policies how would they pay off DJs and provide drugs to their musicians?
 

Dari

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As a matter if honor, they should pay the maximum penalty, including accepting criminal charges for piracy by senior management. Anything less would be hyporcitical.
 

KeithTalent

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Originally posted by: ultimatebob
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Dang, you'd think such a large company would have auditing policies in place...

You would think that, but large bureaucracies like Sony often have departmental budgets that can be quite strict. I wouldn't be surprised if this guy tried to buy this software legally, only to have his request rejected by a mid-level manager.

So the answer is to pirate it and place everyone's jobs in jeopardy?

KT
 

nakedfrog

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Originally posted by: ultimatebob
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Dang, you'd think such a large company would have auditing policies in place...

You would think that, but large bureaucracies like Sony often have departmental budgets that can be quite strict. I wouldn't be surprised if this guy tried to buy this software legally, only to have his request rejected by a mid-level manager.

Yeah, I expect both of them would probably be getting pretty well reamed.
 

randay

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Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Originally posted by: ultimatebob
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Dang, you'd think such a large company would have auditing policies in place...

You would think that, but large bureaucracies like Sony often have departmental budgets that can be quite strict. I wouldn't be surprised if this guy tried to buy this software legally, only to have his request rejected by a mid-level manager.

So the answer is to pirate it and place everyone's jobs in jeopardy?

KT

and for pathetic software that any real admin wouldnt need, no less.
 

nakedfrog

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Originally posted by: Dari
As a matter if honor, they should pay the maximum penalty, including accepting criminal charges for piracy by senior management. Anything less would be hyporcitical.

Well, they're a large corporation, so they're not about to accept any blame.
 
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$475,000. Isnt that nothing for a company like Sony?

This lawsuit ought to be interesting. I'm not against Sony. They've been good to me for 2 decades. The Rootkit fiasco shook my confidence in them, but they have plenty more quality products.

A part of me says that this is just the work of some software admin who didn't bother buying the correct software and just torrented it.

And just how exactly did they get the 47% number?
 

DaveSimmons

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A part of me says that this is just the work of some software admin who didn't bother buying the correct software and just torrented it.

Possibly someone here :) . The majority of ATOT members seem to view infringement as harmless, and many probably bring that attitude with them to work.

A rogue employee really is the most likely explanation, but BMG does bear responsibility for not having good software auditing in place to catch the pirate.
 

RKS

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Originally posted by: tenshodo13
$475,000. Isnt that nothing for a company like Sony?

This lawsuit ought to be interesting. I'm not against Sony. They've been good to me for 2 decades. The Rootkit fiasco shook my confidence in them, but they have plenty more quality products.

A part of me says that this is just the work of some software admin who didn't bother buying the correct software and just torrented it.

And just how exactly did they get the 47% number?


That's probably much more than the cost of the pirated software.