Somewhat technical power supply question...

Hurricane Andrew

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My boss, our CEO, calls me this morning and tells me that his PC is VERY slow, slower than a crawl. He tried rebooting (at least he tried something!) but that didn't help. I figured spyware, and went to his office to check it out.

Turns out, everything in his system was fine, excpet it was very quiet -- none of the fans were working! His exhaust fan, the fan on the power supply itself, and the heatsink fan were all dead to the world. The grill on the back of the PSU was hot, and I mean hot, to the touch. I opened up the case, and the warm air just oozed out :disgust:

I figured it had to be a power supply issue, since the fan on the power supply itself was impacted, so it wasn't likely to be a MOBO short. I performed a temporary power supply bypass by pulling a PSU from another Compaq box and hooking it up to his. Viola! All fans sprang to life and were fine.

Clearly seems to be a case of one of the rails dying (the 3.3v rail, perhaps?). The only question I have, however, is that I thought more than a couple items pulled from multiple rails, so shouldn't something else have been causing trouble too? Then again, the PC is nearly 4 years old, so maybe most of the items: CPU, hard drive, AGP, RAM, pull strictly off the 12v and 5v rails, and it was the 3.3v rail that went belly up? I'm just looking for some general thoughts on this.

For my nice repalcement 250W PSU (which may be part of the problem in the first place), Compaq is kind enough to charge $242. This is the second PSU that's gone belly up in the past 9 months for this model PC, though the first was far more dramatic. That one brought sparks, black smoke, and an awful smell to it's wake.

I can't even begin to tell you how frustrating it is trying to run a one person IT department and having to deal with garbage like this that you can't remedy on the spot.
 

grimlykindo

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you should just get a new case and PSU for WAY less than $242. Plus maybe He'll think you got him a new computer!
 

mastertech01

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It may not be that easy. I was given a computer a while back that had proprietary everything, PSU, mobo, soundcard, everything had special power cables on it from the special PSU.

I would say check out Ebay first. Even half that price would be a comparable bargain.
 

Zepper

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You're usually cruisin' for a bruisin' when you buy OEM replacement parts - the only time I'd ever do that is under warranty. Compaq doesn't often use non-standard parts, so it usually isn't hard to find a direct replacement (or vast improvement) for much less. If it is not the standard ATX form-factor, you just have to figure out what the form-factor is and hit Froogle. If you take measurements (L/W/D in inches) of your PSU and say which side faces the rear, someone here could surely tell you what the form-factor is (SFX, PS/3, TFX, etc., and maybe even where to find a good replacement.

.bh.
 

compudog

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Directron.com has a good selection of OEM PSUs for good prices. You are more than likely stuck with an OEM replacement. I doubt it would be a problem with the 3.3V rail as most fans run on 12V. It could be that there is a bad fan that is eating up the amps the 12V rail is supplying. Your diagnosis of the PSU is probably correct though. See if you can find one for less than the ridiculous Compaq price. Otherwise, a four year old PC isn't worth the expense in my opinion.
 

Hurricane Andrew

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Well, I hate to say it, but it's not my money, and the new PC's aren't in the budget until next year, so it'll probably be a replacement of the PSU at exorbitant prices. Needless to say, since I've been the IT dept, we haven't bought a Compaq, and I have a strange feeling that trend will continue :p

If I had the time to do a more thorough fix, I would. Unfortunately, I'm also the Senior Commercial Lender and 1/3 of the loan committee as well, so my time is somewhat limited, and expediency rules, especially with our planned roll out of online banking in 1Q 2006. :Q
 

Jhhnn

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Check my post, above, Hurricane Andrew. With a few minutes effort, you can order an exact replacement oem quality or better unit for $45 + shipping. Buy two while you're at it, keep one for a spare.

Whatever else Compag may be, they usually have good QC. The failures you've seen are indicative of end of life issues for the whole fleet of psu's in all the Compaqs of that vintage... might as well be ready for it...
 

Hurricane Andrew

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Originally posted by: Jhhnn
Check my post, above, Hurricane Andrew. With a few minutes effort, you can order an exact replacement oem quality or better unit for $45 + shipping. Buy two while you're at it, keep one for a spare.

Whatever else Compag may be, they usually have good QC. The failures you've seen are indicative of end of life issues for the whole fleet of psu's in all the Compaqs of that vintage... might as well be ready for it...


Yeah, the EOL issue is kind of what I figured. I do have new PC's in the budget for next year, but will probably pick up a couple spare PSU's just to be safe, since it'll probably be 2nd quarter at least before we can get them in and deployed.

I did have to pay through the nose last night only because we needed the replacement THIS MORNING (UPS is on their was now). I checked out your link, and unfortunately they don't have a replacement for our model :| I will be poking around over the next few days though, just to have some backups.
 

Jhhnn

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I'm surprised that they didn't list what you need, Hurricane Andrew. Might try email or even the telephone- they've come through on some really obscure items for me...