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Rainsford

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Yeah, Hannity was making a stupid point.

I really don't understand why political discussions so often turn into this kind of ridiculous debate. Republicans could certainly make a reasonable argument that we need more military spending on certain things, but instead some people insist on directly attacking Obama's debate analogy in the stupidest way possible. Say we actually do need more ships, technological improvements notwithstanding. Say Obama was being too glib with his response. But saying we still use bayonets and horses sometimes? That sounds like people have totally given up on making an actual argument.
 

Northern Lawn

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I really don't understand why political discussions so often turn into this kind of ridiculous debate. Republicans could certainly make a reasonable argument that we need more military spending on certain things, but instead some people insist on directly attacking Obama's debate analogy in the stupidest way possible. Say we actually do need more ships, technological improvements notwithstanding. Say Obama was being too glib with his response. But saying we still use bayonets and horses sometimes? That sounds like people have totally given up on making an actual argument.

Romney did say that the Navy said they need 313 ships to complete it's mission. Might as well start there and call it a fact since there is no fact checking anymore by the media. That would be a good place to start but instead, yeah we still use bayonets and horses.
 
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Romney did say that the Navy said they need 313 ships to complete it's mission. Might as well start there and call it a fact since there is no fact checking anymore by the media. That would be a good place to start but instead, yeah we still use bayonets and horses.

The Navy wouldn't need all those ships if the President would just authorize more horses and bayonets. That's the real issue here.
 

Rainsford

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Romney did say that the Navy said they need 313 ships to complete it's mission. Might as well start there and call it a fact since there is no fact checking anymore by the media. That would be a good place to start but instead, yeah we still use bayonets and horses.

If he had stuck with that instead of his silly early 20th century comparison and the right-wing pundits had pushed ahead of that instead of beating the bayonets comparison if might qualify as a reasonable point. But it was a dumb debate argument that deserved to be mocked and the follow-up by the pundits is even worse.
 

Rainsford

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The Navy wouldn't need all those ships if the President would just authorize more horses and bayonets. That's the real issue here.

Well to be fair, 313 ships can be accomplished pretty easily if it means 313 inflatable boats. 313 aircraft carriers might be a bit harder to swing.
 

Northern Lawn

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The Navy wouldn't need all those ships if the President would just authorize more horses and bayonets. That's the real issue here.

No offense but Horses and Bayonets didn't stop Canada from burning down the White House in the War of 1812. Had you air craft carriers and nuclear subs... we might have held back our wrath.
 

BoomerD

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Everything about this argument is stupid. Exactly how do we control spending while building more ships than the navy requested (the asked for a 300 ship navy). Even if the navy wanted 313 total they already have 91% of that. Has anyone here ever achieved 91% of a huge financial transaction and felt they've lost?
 

Dulanic

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Everything about this argument is stupid. Exactly how do we control spending while building more ships than the navy requested (the asked for a 300 ship navy). Even if the navy wanted 313 total they already have 91% of that. Has anyone here ever achieved 91% of a huge financial transaction and felt they've lost?

And then on top of that under 50% of that number could still destroy any other navy.
 

HomerJS

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I really don't understand why political discussions so often turn into this kind of ridiculous debate. Republicans could certainly make a reasonable argument that we need more military spending on certain things, but instead some people insist on directly attacking Obama's debate analogy in the stupidest way possible. Say we actually do need more ships, technological improvements notwithstanding. Say Obama was being too glib with his response. But saying we still use bayonets and horses sometimes? That sounds like people have totally given up on making an actual argument.

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