Sometimes stuff in the East is just too much

[Turin39789]

Originally posted by: Ronstang
Why would this kind of behavior in the East surprise anyone? Has everyone forgotten (actually most just deny it ever happened) the way American POWs were treated by the Japanese, Koreans, and Vietnamese? So I guess since it is history the barbarism of these cultures is forgiven. Nothing that I read about that part of the world surprises me, it may disgust me but it never surprises me.

have you forgotten how american indians were treated by early american settlers?

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Ronstang
Why would this kind of behavior in the East surprise anyone? Has everyone forgotten (actually most just deny it ever happened) the way American POWs were treated by the Japanese, Koreans, and Vietnamese? So I guess since it is history the barbarism of these cultures is forgiven. Nothing that I read about that part of the world surprises me, it may disgust me but it never surprises me.

The Germans did it to the Jews, we did it to the Indians, etc. Every culture is an asshole at times.

 

[Chaotic42]

Originally posted by: Turin39789

have you forgotten how american indians were treated by early american settlers?

It's easy to be cruel when you think that someone/thing is less human that you are. No culture is immune.

 

[Ronstang]

Originally posted by: Turin39789

Originally posted by: Ronstang
Why would this kind of behavior in the East surprise anyone? Has everyone forgotten (actually most just deny it ever happened) the way American POWs were treated by the Japanese, Koreans, and Vietnamese? So I guess since it is history the barbarism of these cultures is forgiven. Nothing that I read about that part of the world surprises me, it may disgust me but it never surprises me.

have you forgotten how american indians were treated by early american settlers?

Nice try Einstein....the early settlers were peaceful towards the Indians and got slaughered for it. I'm not even going to go into what happened to unescorted settlers in the West during the early to mid 1800s.

 

[JohnPaul]

You people are acting like killing defenseless animals for no good reason is okay. What's wrong with you? I hate the way animals are killed in slaughter houses, and would love to be able to stop that too, but at least they aren't raising the animal to live what little life it has unable to stand, have normal bowel movements, play etc. How would you like it done to you? Do you have any idea how intelligent pigs are? Well, they are very smart, and they can tell what is happening when they see the pig ahead of them getting killed. Why is it that everyone always has to come to the defense of "culture" when something wrong or inhumane is brought up? Also, why is it that somehow America is always brought into the fray in a negetive light? If you don't like what America stands for, get off of our coat tails, and stop using us.

 

[Justin218]

Sure, this isn't the nicest thing to do to a pig, the force feeding and all... But you know what, there are bigger problems in the world, and thousands of pigs are slaughtered every day across the US alone I'm sure.

 

[Chaotic42]

Originally posted by: JohnPaul
You people are acting like killing defenseless animals for no good reason is okay. What's wrong with you? I hate the way animals are killed in slaughter houses, and would love to be able to stop that too, but at least they aren't raising the animal to live what little life it has unable to stand, have normal bowel movements, play etc. How would you like it done to you? Do you have any idea how intelligent pigs are? Well, they are very smart, and they can tell what is happening when they see the pig ahead of them getting killed. Why is it that everyone always has to come to the defense of "culture" when something wrong or inhumane is brought up? Also, why is it that somehow America is always brought into the fray in a negetive light? If you don't like what America stands for, get off of our coat tails, and stop using us.

Where do you draw the line with animals? Which ones are ok to kill, and in which way?

 

[idNut]

Originally posted by: JohnPaul
You people are acting like killing defenseless animals for no good reason is okay. What's wrong with you? I hate the way animals are killed in slaughter houses, and would love to be able to stop that too, but at least they aren't raising the animal to live what little life it has unable to stand, have normal bowel movements, play etc. How would you like it done to you? Do you have any idea how intelligent pigs are? Well, they are very smart, and they can tell what is happening when they see the pig ahead of them getting killed. Why is it that everyone always has to come to the defense of "culture" when something wrong or inhumane is brought up? Also, why is it that somehow America is always brought into the fray in a negetive light? If you don't like what America stands for, get off of our coat tails, and stop using us.

Nicely put. I'd rather see it done to our own kind rather than a defenseless, helpless animal. This is disgusting and wrong and I do hope it comes to an end. Castrating a pig without dimming its senses is awful, just awful. I can't believe some people, I truly can't.

 

[AndrewR]

Let's get one thing straight -- the killing, while a public spectacle, is not the horrific part. It's the abusive overfeeding that renders these animals incapable of walking on their own that is despicable.

Originally posted by: Turin39789

Originally posted by: Ronstang
Why would this kind of behavior in the East surprise anyone? Has everyone forgotten (actually most just deny it ever happened) the way American POWs were treated by the Japanese, Koreans, and Vietnamese? So I guess since it is history the barbarism of these cultures is forgiven. Nothing that I read about that part of the world surprises me, it may disgust me but it never surprises me.

have you forgotten how american indians were treated by early american settlers?

Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't realize that happened in THIS CENTURY by people who are STILL ALIVE. My mistake.

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: Magnum375

Originally posted by: ed21x
This isn't a popular thing in Taiwan, just a small bunch of fvcked up people from the countryside doing it. Please don't make dumb generalizations on how this tiny group reflects the general populace of Taiwan. Afterall, there's quite a few strange groups here in the states also.

I did not make any generalization, I said I do not understand the group of people doing this.

Sometimes stuff in the East is just too much

call me stupid but that sounds like a generalization to me.

for every example of fvcked up stuff you can find overseas, we can find one here. don't tell me you don't honestly believe there are 1 or 2 things that the hillbillies in west virginia do that you wouldn't find embarrassing.

they cheer the killing of pigs live, americans (most of the world actually) cheer the killing of people in movies all the time. there are some people that cheered when lawrence taylor broke joe theismans leg.

do you find that any less repulsive?

quit being so narrow minded.

what about how chickens are kept in those little cages and never allowed to get out until they are slaughtered?

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: Turin39789

Originally posted by: Ronstang
Why would this kind of behavior in the East surprise anyone? Has everyone forgotten (actually most just deny it ever happened) the way American POWs were treated by the Japanese, Koreans, and Vietnamese? So I guess since it is history the barbarism of these cultures is forgiven. Nothing that I read about that part of the world surprises me, it may disgust me but it never surprises me.

have you forgotten how american indians were treated by early american settlers?

Nice try Einstein....the early settlers were peaceful towards the Indians and got slaughered for it. I'm not even going to go into what happened to unescorted settlers in the West during the early to mid 1800s.

and what right did these "settlers" have to invade the indian lands in the first place?

you must be brainwashed to think that the indians initiated most of the bad will.

 

[captains]

awwwwwwwwwweesome......i can already taste the bacon....mmmmmmmmmmmm

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: JohnPaul
You people are acting like killing defenseless animals for no good reason is okay. What's wrong with you? I hate the way animals are killed in slaughter houses, and would love to be able to stop that too, but at least they aren't raising the animal to live what little life it has unable to stand, have normal bowel movements, play etc. How would you like it done to you? Do you have any idea how intelligent pigs are? Well, they are very smart, and they can tell what is happening when they see the pig ahead of them getting killed. Why is it that everyone always has to come to the defense of "culture" when something wrong or inhumane is brought up? Also, why is it that somehow America is always brought into the fray in a negetive light? If you don't like what America stands for, get off of our coat tails, and stop using us.

do you eat meat? use animal products?

then stfu.

 

[isekii]

Originally posted by: idNut

Originally posted by: JohnPaul
You people are acting like killing defenseless animals for no good reason is okay. What's wrong with you? I hate the way animals are killed in slaughter houses, and would love to be able to stop that too, but at least they aren't raising the animal to live what little life it has unable to stand, have normal bowel movements, play etc. How would you like it done to you? Do you have any idea how intelligent pigs are? Well, they are very smart, and they can tell what is happening when they see the pig ahead of them getting killed. Why is it that everyone always has to come to the defense of "culture" when something wrong or inhumane is brought up? Also, why is it that somehow America is always brought into the fray in a negetive light? If you don't like what America stands for, get off of our coat tails, and stop using us.

Nicely put. I'd rather see it done to our own kind rather than a defenseless, helpless animal. This is disgusting and wrong and I do hope it comes to an end. Castrating a pig without dimming its senses is awful, just awful. I can't believe some people, I truly can't.

Maybe you should start cutting down on meat ?
You are teh PITA

 

[helloedchen]

i'm actually Hakka and i've been to one of these festivals when i visited family in Taiwan a few years back. as much as it is a ritual, the whole thing is rather sick. then again, i'm looking at it through western eyes, things over there are totally different, so although it sounds disgusting, its normal for them. just like how we eat beef and other cultures don't.

 

[UnatcoAgent]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: Magnum375

Originally posted by: ed21x
This isn't a popular thing in Taiwan, just a small bunch of fvcked up people from the countryside doing it. Please don't make dumb generalizations on how this tiny group reflects the general populace of Taiwan. Afterall, there's quite a few strange groups here in the states also.

I did not make any generalization, I said I do not understand the group of people doing this.

Sometimes stuff in the East is just too much

call me stupid but that sounds like a generalization to me.

for every example of fvcked up stuff you can find overseas, we can find one here. don't tell me you don't honestly believe there are 1 or 2 things that the hillbillies in west virginia do that you wouldn't find embarrassing.

they cheer the killing of pigs live, americans (most of the world actually) cheer the killing of people in movies all the time. there are some people that cheered when lawrence taylor broke joe theismans leg.

do you find that any less repulsive?

quit being so narrow minded.

what about how chickens are kept in those little cages and never allowed to get out until they are slaughtered?

Well your an idiot then, if I had said "sometimes THE EAST is too much then yes that could be concidered a generalization. And I have also stated many times already in this thread that I am not ignorant to the differences in different cultures. I also realize that there are many screwed up things that go on in the States and Canada. However your example is rediculous, sure we 'cheer on' the deaths of people in movies, I am pretty sure that movies with people dying are also played over seas, no ? I'm sure that they enjoy them just as much as we do.

Correct me if I am wrong but an open event infront of thousands of people where an animal is tortured is very wrong since it is cruetly. I realize that slaughterhouses are similar and I do not condone them, I might be a vegan and you wouldn't know it.

 

[Fausto]

Just for the record, something relatively similar happens here in the States and elsewhere on a grand scale 365 days per year.

It's called veal. :|

 

[isekii]

Originally posted by: Fausto1
Just for the record, something relatively similar happens here in the States and elsewhere on a grand scale 365 days per year.

It's called veal. :|

Veal = teh Yummy

 

[Fausto]

Originally posted by: isekii

Originally posted by: Fausto1
Just for the record, something relatively similar happens here in the States and elsewhere on a grand scale 365 days per year.

It's called veal. :|

Veal = teh Yummy

Sure, but no way in hell could I eat that stuff after finding out how it's produced. You gotta draw the line somewhere, and that's it for me.

 

[WinkOsmosis]

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: Turin39789

Originally posted by: Ronstang
Why would this kind of behavior in the East surprise anyone? Has everyone forgotten (actually most just deny it ever happened) the way American POWs were treated by the Japanese, Koreans, and Vietnamese? So I guess since it is history the barbarism of these cultures is forgiven. Nothing that I read about that part of the world surprises me, it may disgust me but it never surprises me.

have you forgotten how american indians were treated by early american settlers?

Nice try Einstein....the early settlers were peaceful towards the Indians and got slaughered for it. I'm not even going to go into what happened to unescorted settlers in the West during the early to mid 1800s.

Hahahhahahahahhahaha

 

[fastz28]

Oh yeah? In America, we tie a person to a truck and drag him to death. Beat that.

:disgust:

 

[LongCoolMother]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: JohnPaul
You people are acting like killing defenseless animals for no good reason is okay. What's wrong with you? I hate the way animals are killed in slaughter houses, and would love to be able to stop that too, but at least they aren't raising the animal to live what little life it has unable to stand, have normal bowel movements, play etc. How would you like it done to you? Do you have any idea how intelligent pigs are? Well, they are very smart, and they can tell what is happening when they see the pig ahead of them getting killed. Why is it that everyone always has to come to the defense of "culture" when something wrong or inhumane is brought up? Also, why is it that somehow America is always brought into the fray in a negetive light? If you don't like what America stands for, get off of our coat tails, and stop using us.

do you eat meat? use animal products?

then stfu.

couldnt have been said better.

maybe the pigs like it. i dont know, i cant understand them.

 

[Whisper]

Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: Turin39789

Originally posted by: Ronstang
Why would this kind of behavior in the East surprise anyone? Has everyone forgotten (actually most just deny it ever happened) the way American POWs were treated by the Japanese, Koreans, and Vietnamese? So I guess since it is history the barbarism of these cultures is forgiven. Nothing that I read about that part of the world surprises me, it may disgust me but it never surprises me.

have you forgotten how american indians were treated by early american settlers?

Nice try Einstein....the early settlers were peaceful towards the Indians and got slaughered for it. I'm not even going to go into what happened to unescorted settlers in the West during the early to mid 1800s.

Hahahhahahahahhahaha

My sentiments exactly. Go read "Of Plymouth Plantation" sometime and see how the early settlers--and very educated ones at that--viewed the Indians. As someone else mentioned, it's quite easy to treat an entire group of people inhumanely when you don't even see them as humans.

Oh, and let's not forget what we've done to Chinese-Americans, Japanese-Americans, Italian-Americans, Irish-Americans, and most recently Arab-Americans within our own national borders. And unlike the pig slaughtering (which I agree is pretty nasty), a lot of the above WAS sanctioned or even perpetuated by the government.

 

[Yossarian]

I sent this to my animal-loving friend and got this reply back--

"TOO CRUEL!!!!!

but maybe they are souls that have been sent to HELL and they found them selves as pigs in Taiwan... just a thought."

I don't know what to say to that!

 

[0roo0roo]

eh, dog/cock fights to the death in mexico are worse.