Sometimes it's nice to realize why I'm happy to be in the USA

[davmat787]

That we did, among many many many other things.

Not surprising a thread about the US is turned into a UK pride thread. Anyway, suck on this HAL!

 

[HAL9000]

Not surprising a thread about the US is turned into a UK pride thread. Anyway, suck on this HAL!

Pretty sure the OP was talking about the UK...

Not sure what image was about.

 

[Brigandier]

You mean the Romans and Egyptians didn't hunt/capture big game from Africa? I'm fairly certain big game hunting was going down in Africa thousands of years before the British.

Maybe, but they sent peons to kill it and bring back the trophy. British advancements allowed the noble to take down the game himself.

This thread is fail, because Britons can own the exact knife the OP displays. America and Britain have a lot more in common than a lot here seem to realize; for some reason, the Brits get hated on more than normal on this forum, and I simply don't get it. Britain was long ago proven not to be a threat to the free world, quit hating on them. They're just blokes wanting to live and have a good chat.

I'm ashamed over how many of my fellow Americans attempt to stifle speech with verbal dung-throwing if their held opinion is opposed. America was invented so every shithead could spew his verbal shit, some shit may stink worse than yours, but don't you think yours smells just as bad to them?

 

[davmat787]

Pretty sure the OP was talking about the UK...

Not sure what image was about.

The image was to illustrate against the notion in this thread (that you quoted, commented on, and agreed with) that the British pretty much invented big game hunting. Factually speaking, big game hunting was going on for thousands and thousands of years, as the Wooly Mammoth evidence (flint arrowheads, spear tips, etc marked on bones) shows.

Big game hunting was not invented by the white man, British or not. The exploitation of that resource perhaps, but we were not the first. I am not trying to take anything away from the UK here, just pointing out that big game hunting was going on before the British colonized Africa and hunted big game there.

 

[davmat787]

Maybe, but they sent peons to kill it and bring back the trophy. British advancements allowed the noble to take down the game himself.

This thread is fail, because Britons can own the exact knife the OP displays. America and Britain have a lot more in common than a lot here seem to realize; for some reason, the Brits get hated on more than normal on this forum, and I simply don't get it. Britain was long ago proven not to be a threat to the free world, quit hating on them. They're just blokes wanting to live and have a good chat.

I'm ashamed over how many of my fellow Americans attempt to stifle speech with verbal dung-throwing if their held opinion is opposed. America was invented so every shithead could spew his verbal shit, some shit may stink worse than yours, but don't you think yours smells just as bad to them?

Um, Weatherby is an American company. Roy Weatherby, the founder, was born in Kansas and died in California. You can read about him here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Weatherby

If you want an example of what I assume you are getting at, look into Holland&Holland. The .375H&H is one of the most popular big game cartridges, and legally speaking often the minimum powered cartridge allowed to hunt big game. Not trying to sound like an ass, but I would also read up on the history of the double gun too.

Also, the history of Egyptian Royalty hunting is a rich one. Not only that, but the Kings often led the charge into the battlefield. I can't remember which one at the moment, but one of the more famous Kings, tut perhaps, is believed to have died from a hunting accident in which a leg was broken among other injuries. The party was hundreds of miles away from home, and by the time they returned infection had set in, perhaps internal bleeding, and he died.

So what and whom exactly are you trying to credit here?

 

[HAL9000]

The image was to illustrate against the notion in this thread (that you quoted, commented on, and agreed with) that the British pretty much invented big game hunting. Factually speaking, big game hunting was going on for thousands and thousands of years, as the Wooly Mammoth evidence (flint arrowheads, spear tips, etc marked on bones) shows.

Big game hunting was not invented by the white man, British or not. The exploitation of that resource perhaps, but we were not the first. I am not trying to take anything away from the UK here, just pointing out that big game hunting was going on before the British colonized Africa and hunted big game there.

OK fair enough, I don't really care one way or the other, I just assumed he was talking about big game hunting for sport.

 

[Brigandier]

Um, Weatherby is an American company. Roy Weatherby, the founder, was born in Kansas and died in California. You can read about him here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Weatherby

If you want an example of what I assume you are getting at, look into Holland&Holland. The .375H&H is one of the most popular big game cartridges, and legally speaking often the minimum powered cartridge allowed to hunt big game. Not trying to sound like an ass, but I would also read up on the history of the double gun too.

I appreciate the correction, knowledge is power. I was thinking of the British wealthy man, with his single shot large caliber rifle. I'm probably being stereotypical in my assessment, it's probably only a rich white guy that can afford to big hunt getting these animals, and I shouldn't limit my view to just British men. After all, one of the most revered big game hunters was Teddy Roosevelt, a very American individual.

 

[zinfamous]

lol at "British invented big game hunting."

...But what do they mean by Big Game hunting when they think it's a "British invention?" Sitting on the back of an elephant and picking off a tiger while some Indian servant retrieves the corpse?

:hmm:

 

[davmat787]

I appreciate the correction, knowledge is power. I was thinking of the British wealthy man, with his single shot large caliber rifle. I'm probably being stereotypical in my assessment, it's probably only a rich white guy that can afford to big hunt getting these animals, and I shouldn't limit my view to just British men. After all, one of the most revered big game hunters was Teddy Roosevelt, a very American individual.

No worries, its all good as the kids like to say. :thumbsup:

I edited my post after you quoted it, adding a bit more info on Egyptian Royalty and hunting. Trying to find which king it was that died from the hunting accident.

As for the bolded, look up the doublegun, which is still considered the best big game type of gun today as far as I know. The doublegun (not to be confused with a double shotgun) could very well be a British invention.

 

[Brigandier]

lol at "British invented big game hunting."

...But what do they mean by Big Game hunting when they think it's a "British invention?" Sitting on the back of an elephant and picking off a tiger while some Indian servant retrieves the corpse?

:hmm:

Not to mention the British practically invented big game hunting, hell the best big game rifles are still made by the British.

I think my lawyer would say I didn't say what you said I did.

No worries, its all good as the kids like to say.

I edited my post after you quoted it, adding a bit more info on Egyptian Royalty and hunting. Trying to find which king it was that died from the hunting accident.

As for the bolded, look up the doublegun, which is still considered the best big game type of gun today as far as I know. The doublegun (not to be confused with a double shotgun) could very well be a British invention.

The Egyptian kings were bad ass then, because hunting with a simple bow and bronze implements is very different than the arrows and bows we have now. The doublegun, if I get the concept, is an over-under rifle, which is bad ass. My step-dad has a doublegun that is a .410 and some archaic 30 caliber round.

 

[zinfamous]

I think my lawyer would say I didn't say what you said I did.

I didn't actually read that comment of yours before making my post.

I pulled that assumption out of my ass, as it were.

 

[Brigandier]

I didn't actually read that comment of yours before making my post.

I pulled that assumption out of my ass, as it were.

I love things pulled out of my ass. I'd never consume it, but I'd gladly give it to others. The more they lap up, the bigger my grin gets; some would call it a shit eating grin.

 

[moshquerade]

i love it here.

 

[davmat787]

I think my lawyer would say I didn't say what you said I did.



The Egyptian kings were bad ass then, because hunting with a simple bow and bronze implements is very different than the arrows and bows we have now. The doublegun, if I get the concept, is an over-under rifle, which is bad ass. My step-dad has a doublegun that is a .410 and some archaic 30 caliber round.

Doubleguns have side-by-side barrels, unlike an over-under rifle. The idea of it is you can easily and quickly reload by pulling two cartridges between the fingers of one hand and easily place them in the breech without having to take your eyes off that charging water buffalo. No "cocking" involved, just close the barrels back up and you can pull either trigger again. Double guns are unique, and require separate skills than a regular rifle.

If you have the stomach and interest, there are videos on youtube of big game hunting with doubleguns.

 

[RabidMongoose]

You mean the Romans and Egyptians didn't hunt/capture big game from Africa? I'm fairly certain big game hunting was going down in Africa thousands of years before the British.

British people are weird. They like to think that they've invented everything, but the reality is that the only things that they've ever invented were concentration camps and the most bloodthirsty nation (the UK blood machine) to have ever existed in the world.

 

[HAL9000]

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£1 says that the above message has the word "peasant" or "peon" or "bloodthirsty" or "racism" in it.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Britain was long ago proven not to be a threat to the free world,

When was this, after they slaughtered half of the world? They were basically defeated and forced into subjugation, but you can't let your guard down against that bloodthirsty country.

 

[sandorski]

You eat Staples for lunch? I've heard of people eating bizarre things, but eating staples.... ouch! Not for me.

Do you eat your staples with or without bread?

That's absurd.

The OP eats staples for lunch. That's pretty hardcore.

Get back On Topic guys!

 

[zoiks]

I'm happy to be in the USA as well. Although I could care less about owning any firearms.

 

[HAL9000]

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