Something to worry about, if Obama gets elected.

[Vic]

Originally posted by: brencat

Originally posted by: Lemon law
As for all of you who think Kucinich's wife is hot, I would not kick Mrs. Fred Thompson out of bed either. It might be a close hot wife race there.

+1

But I've got to tell you, I think Cindy McCain is HOT -- especially for a 54 yr old. Best looking potential first lady to come along in quite a long time, IMO.

Ugh... I can't agree. I'm just not into the Tammy Faye Bakker look.

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: M0RPH
Talk about frightening. If I ran across the 5'11" Michelle-beast in an alley, I would be very scared.

Face it, you'd be scared if mini-me looked at you crosswise in an alley.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: JSt0rm01

Originally posted by: Socio
I guess we will have to wait until October and see one way or another.

No. Thats not how it works. You don't get to make wild claims without something to back them up. For instance, You're a racist hick. Now I can't really make this claim without some kind of proof to back it up, like your responses in this thread. See how that works?

He's not making a "wild claim". It's all over the internet, and comes from a Democratic source (albeit a Hillary supporter). He doesn't even claim it's real or creditable.

Notice his words below:

Originally posted by: Socio

Originally posted by: Fern
-snip

She will be a campaign issue for sure and she maybe even a campaign killer IF the aleged ?Whitey? tape is real, is as bad as some who say they have seen it make it out to be, and it does surface.

He's already supplied his (3rd party) source. That's all one can do, and more than most bother with, or are capable of.

Personally, I think the "whitey" remark is gonna turn out to be "why'd he". But we won't know until later. IF the tape exists as rumoured and is held by a Repub supporter, it's far too early to release it now.

Fern

I don't know, I still feel that if you're going to make shit up, or pass around shit OTHER people have made up, it's not out of line to ask you to provide some proof or shut the hell up. "It's all over the Internet" doesn't really mean anything, and while Socio is being very cagey about this, it's pretty clear his "wait and see" attitude is just a BS excuse to spread the rumor around without having to back any of it up. In fact, it's a pretty common propaganda technique, right up there with "teach the controversy". It allows you to say whatever you want without needed the facts to back anything up.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Rainsford
I don't know, I still feel that if you're going to make shit up, or pass around shit OTHER people have made up, it's not out of line to ask you to provide some proof or shut the hell up. "It's all over the Internet" doesn't really mean anything, and while Socio is being very cagey about this, it's pretty clear his "wait and see" attitude is just a BS excuse to spread the rumor around without having to back any of it up. In fact, it's a pretty common propaganda technique, right up there with "teach the controversy". It allows you to say whatever you want without needed the facts to back anything up.

Actually, Socio (inadvertently) is using a well-known Nazi propaganda trick, known as the 'Big Lie.' It's where you tell a lie so completely outrageous that people assume it must be true because otherwise no one wants to believe that you could be a POS liar.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Rainsford
I don't know, I still feel that if you're going to make shit up, or pass around shit OTHER people have made up, it's not out of line to ask you to provide some proof or shut the hell up. "It's all over the Internet" doesn't really mean anything, and while Socio is being very cagey about this, it's pretty clear his "wait and see" attitude is just a BS excuse to spread the rumor around without having to back any of it up. In fact, it's a pretty common propaganda technique, right up there with "teach the controversy". It allows you to say whatever you want without needed the facts to back anything up.

Actually, Socio (inadvertently) is using a well-known Nazi propaganda trick, known as the 'Big Lie.' It's where you tell a lie so completely outrageous that people assume it must be true because otherwise no one wants to believe that you could be a POS liar.

...or, maybe the Jews reall y were a threat and Hitler was just pre-empting?

I dunno, the Proof maybe revealed this October.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Rainsford
I don't know, I still feel that if you're going to make shit up, or pass around shit OTHER people have made up, it's not out of line to ask you to provide some proof or shut the hell up. "It's all over the Internet" doesn't really mean anything, and while Socio is being very cagey about this, it's pretty clear his "wait and see" attitude is just a BS excuse to spread the rumor around without having to back any of it up. In fact, it's a pretty common propaganda technique, right up there with "teach the controversy". It allows you to say whatever you want without needed the facts to back anything up.

Actually, Socio (inadvertently) is using a well-known Nazi propaganda trick, known as the 'Big Lie.' It's where you tell a lie so completely outrageous that people assume it must be true because otherwise no one wants to believe that you could be a POS liar.

...or, maybe the Jews reall y were a threat and Hitler was just pre-empting?

I dunno, the Proof maybe revealed this October.

Uh... no.

And if this tape actually existed, we'd have already seen it. There's no political advantage to be had in holding onto something like this. In fact, quite the opposite now that Hillary has conceded and the tape still hasn't shown up as promised.

 

[Socio]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Rainsford
I don't know, I still feel that if you're going to make shit up, or pass around shit OTHER people have made up, it's not out of line to ask you to provide some proof or shut the hell up. "It's all over the Internet" doesn't really mean anything, and while Socio is being very cagey about this, it's pretty clear his "wait and see" attitude is just a BS excuse to spread the rumor around without having to back any of it up. In fact, it's a pretty common propaganda technique, right up there with "teach the controversy". It allows you to say whatever you want without needed the facts to back anything up.

Actually, Socio (inadvertently) is using a well-known Nazi propaganda trick, known as the 'Big Lie.' It's where you tell a lie so completely outrageous that people assume it must be true because otherwise no one wants to believe that you could be a POS liar.

...or, maybe the Jews reall y were a threat and Hitler was just pre-empting?

I dunno, the Proof maybe revealed this October.

Uh... no.

And if this tape actually existed, we'd have already seen it. There's no political advantage to be had in holding onto something like this. In fact, quite the opposite now that Hillary has conceded and the tape still hasn't shown up as promised.

Not true!

Why on earth would you release it now when it would be played down even forgotten for the most part by November or possibly cause Obama to resign and put Hillary back in?

You wouldn't!

You would wait until October, when it is too late for the Dems to do anything about it and it is fresh in the minds of the voters when they go vote.

 

[Socio]

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: JSt0rm01

Originally posted by: Socio
I guess we will have to wait until October and see one way or another.

No. Thats not how it works. You don't get to make wild claims without something to back them up. For instance, You're a racist hick. Now I can't really make this claim without some kind of proof to back it up, like your responses in this thread. See how that works?

He's not making a "wild claim". It's all over the internet, and comes from a Democratic source (albeit a Hillary supporter). He doesn't even claim it's real or creditable.

Notice his words below:

Originally posted by: Socio

Originally posted by: Fern
-snip

She will be a campaign issue for sure and she maybe even a campaign killer IF the aleged ?Whitey? tape is real, is as bad as some who say they have seen it make it out to be, and it does surface.

He's already supplied his (3rd party) source. That's all one can do, and more than most bother with, or are capable of.

Personally, I think the "whitey" remark is gonna turn out to be "why'd he". But we won't know until later. IF the tape exists as rumoured and is held by a Repub supporter, it's far too early to release it now.

Fern

I don't know, I still feel that if you're going to make shit up, or pass around shit OTHER people have made up, it's not out of line to ask you to provide some proof or shut the hell up. "It's all over the Internet" doesn't really mean anything, and while Socio is being very cagey about this, it's pretty clear his "wait and see" attitude is just a BS excuse to spread the rumor around without having to back any of it up. In fact, it's a pretty common propaganda technique, right up there with "teach the controversy". It allows you to say whatever you want without needed the facts to back anything up.

By that logic at least half the threads, posts, and links found in the PR forum would be suspect.

What are you going to do make new rules forcing everyone to supply irrefutable evidence for every single post they make and for every site and news link they post a link to, hold everyone accountable for every site that might be lying?

Of course not!

The simple fact is speculation, theory, rumor and conjecture have been part of news media and religion from day one and always will be.

 

[Siddhartha]

Originally posted by: Papagayo
When you look at Past President Clinton, the wife of the president does get heavily involved in our country.


Look at the difference between Cindy McCain and Michelle Obama.

Cindy

Michelle


I can see that Cindy is very compassionate for less fortunate (for all race).
Michelle, granted is very intelligent, but has done very little. But the little she has done was only for her race.

From my personal experience, most of African Americans have the mentality that "It's us vs them" (blacks vs whites)

I personally think Barack Obama will be a good president. I don't think he will have any problems, but I worry about his wife. I gotta feeling that if Obama gets elected, Michelle will be very vocal (preference over African American over whites)"

As a President of United States, I believe that the President and the wife should govern the country as a whole. But deep inside, I don't see that with Michelle.

*****************
Update:

When you vote for President, you are also voting for the first wife.. It's a package deal. If you don't agree with my thoughts, just post your reason. You don't ahve to bash.

Lonyo, thanks for your input. You are correct that Cindy did have more time. Cindy was born rich.

I just hope that if Barack does get elected, Michelle see the responsibilities as a Presidents wife and treat all race as equal.



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Common Courtesy

Yep, the Republicans are going to try to make Mr Obama's wife an issue.

There are real important things, for example the war and the economy, talk about and they are spending time attacking her.

Desparate assholes!

 

[jjones]

This is the dumbest thread I've read in quite some time, and that's saying a lot since I mostly hang out in OT.

 

[wwswimming]

Funny I believe the President should do his duties as outlined in the Constitution and I don't see any duties defined in there for the Presidents spouse so no matter who is elected the spouse should have no role in governing the country.

she has a huge role. what if she's unhappy with one of his policies &
starts withholding sex or something ? she's got him totally over a
barrel. Barack would have to start doing yoga or maybe start smoking
cigarettes again, to deal with the stress.

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: wwswimming

Funny I believe the President should do his duties as outlined in the Constitution and I don't see any duties defined in there for the Presidents spouse so no matter who is elected the spouse should have no role in governing the country.

she has a huge role. what if she's unhappy with one of his policies &
starts withholding sex or something ? she's got him totally over a
barrel. Barack would have to start doing yoga or maybe start smoking
cigarettes again, to deal with the stress.

Or he could just jerk off.

 

[MonkeyK]

The spouse might be a factor... if the candidates were otherwise difficult to choose between. Otherwise the OP is just hoping for some sort of issue that will never appear.

Both Michelle Obama and Cindy McCain would be great first ladies.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Socio

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Rainsford
I don't know, I still feel that if you're going to make shit up, or pass around shit OTHER people have made up, it's not out of line to ask you to provide some proof or shut the hell up. "It's all over the Internet" doesn't really mean anything, and while Socio is being very cagey about this, it's pretty clear his "wait and see" attitude is just a BS excuse to spread the rumor around without having to back any of it up. In fact, it's a pretty common propaganda technique, right up there with "teach the controversy". It allows you to say whatever you want without needed the facts to back anything up.

Actually, Socio (inadvertently) is using a well-known Nazi propaganda trick, known as the 'Big Lie.' It's where you tell a lie so completely outrageous that people assume it must be true because otherwise no one wants to believe that you could be a POS liar.

...or, maybe the Jews reall y were a threat and Hitler was just pre-empting?

I dunno, the Proof maybe revealed this October.

Uh... no.

And if this tape actually existed, we'd have already seen it. There's no political advantage to be had in holding onto something like this. In fact, quite the opposite now that Hillary has conceded and the tape still hasn't shown up as promised.

Not true!

Why on earth would you release it now when it would be played down even forgotten for the most part by November or possibly cause Obama to resign and put Hillary back in?

You wouldn't!

You would wait until October, when it is too late for the Dems to do anything about it and it is fresh in the minds of the voters when they go vote.

Or they could take Obama out of the running right now. No one wants until October with these kind of political attacks. June is always the time for swiftboating, and it has come and is nearly gone. Even the Willie Horton incident came up in June '88.

Your logic is desperate. The tape doesn't exist. The incident was highly public and no one has corroborated the alleged events.
You bought into a lie and now you just don't want to admit. It's pathetic. Even worse is your propaganda technique of trying to give this lie credibility by continuing to spread the rumor. I think a put up, shut up, or be banned is going to have to be in order for you soon. You've already let us know often enough that your only motivation is racism anyway.

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: Vic
Your logic is desperate. The tape doesn't exist. The incident was highly public and no one has corroborated the alleged events.
You bought into a lie and now you just don't want to admit. It's pathetic. Even worse is your propaganda technique of trying to give this lie credibility by continuing to spread the rumor. I think a put up, shut up, or be banned is going to have to be in order for you soon. You've already let us know often enough that your only motivation is racism anyway.

The racists will be scurrying about like roaches this election.

They will try to spread the filth of a thousand slimey innuendos.

They will only succeed in exposing themselves.

Let the cleansing begin. :thumbsup:

 

[Socio]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Socio

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Rainsford
I don't know, I still feel that if you're going to make shit up, or pass around shit OTHER people have made up, it's not out of line to ask you to provide some proof or shut the hell up. "It's all over the Internet" doesn't really mean anything, and while Socio is being very cagey about this, it's pretty clear his "wait and see" attitude is just a BS excuse to spread the rumor around without having to back any of it up. In fact, it's a pretty common propaganda technique, right up there with "teach the controversy". It allows you to say whatever you want without needed the facts to back anything up.

Actually, Socio (inadvertently) is using a well-known Nazi propaganda trick, known as the 'Big Lie.' It's where you tell a lie so completely outrageous that people assume it must be true because otherwise no one wants to believe that you could be a POS liar.

...or, maybe the Jews reall y were a threat and Hitler was just pre-empting?

I dunno, the Proof maybe revealed this October.

Uh... no.

And if this tape actually existed, we'd have already seen it. There's no political advantage to be had in holding onto something like this. In fact, quite the opposite now that Hillary has conceded and the tape still hasn't shown up as promised.

Not true!

Why on earth would you release it now when it would be played down even forgotten for the most part by November or possibly cause Obama to resign and put Hillary back in?

You wouldn't!

You would wait until October, when it is too late for the Dems to do anything about it and it is fresh in the minds of the voters when they go vote.

Or they could take Obama out of the running right now. No one wants until October with these kind of political attacks. June is always the time for swiftboating, and it has come and is nearly gone. Even the Willie Horton incident came up in June '88.

Of course they would wait to October, why would the McCain people show it now and force Obama to resign, it makes no sense. If he were to resign that would likely end up giving Hillary the nomination and still make it tough for McCain. However if McCain just waits until October, then shows the tape and shocks the nation just before the election, he can nab an easy landslide victory.

So it is more than understandable that if it is real and they do have it why they would sit on it.

Originally posted by: Vic
Your logic is desperate. The tape doesn't exist. The incident was highly public and no one has corroborated the alleged events.
You bought into a lie and now you just don't want to admit. It's pathetic. Even worse is your propaganda technique of trying to give this lie credibility by continuing to spread the rumor. I think a put up, shut up, or be banned is going to have to be in order for you soon. You've already let us know often enough that your only motivation is racism anyway.

Again with the attacks and unsavory innuendos; you do realize your assumption of my motivation is no different than an assumption that the tape is real, based on pure speculation, all you are actually doing is calling the kettle black.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: Socio

Originally posted by: Rainsford
...
I don't know, I still feel that if you're going to make shit up, or pass around shit OTHER people have made up, it's not out of line to ask you to provide some proof or shut the hell up. "It's all over the Internet" doesn't really mean anything, and while Socio is being very cagey about this, it's pretty clear his "wait and see" attitude is just a BS excuse to spread the rumor around without having to back any of it up. In fact, it's a pretty common propaganda technique, right up there with "teach the controversy". It allows you to say whatever you want without needed the facts to back anything up.

By that logic at least half the threads, posts, and links found in the PR forum would be suspect.

What are you going to do make new rules forcing everyone to supply irrefutable evidence for every single post they make and for every site and news link they post a link to, hold everyone accountable for every site that might be lying?

Of course not!

The simple fact is speculation, theory, rumor and conjecture have been part of news media and religion from day one and always will be.

Of course there's no rule about it, don't be silly.

That said, whether or not it's a tradition to pass off rumor as fact, I think it's an equally important tradition to call people out on it when they do it. Mostly because "rumor" is often a convenient cover for something someone KNOWS is BS but would still like to spread around. It's still your right to say whatever you like, but it's MY right to call you out when you're full of crap.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Socio
Of course they would wait to October, why would the McCain people show it now and force Obama to resign, it makes no sense. If he were to resign that would likely end up giving Hillary the nomination and still make it tough for McCain. However if McCain just waits until October, then shows the tape and shocks the nation just before the election, he can nab an easy landslide victory.

So it is more than understandable that if it is real and they do have it why they would sit on it.

I already addressed this specious 'logic' of yours. It's crap just to keep this rumor going. Any moron can see that.

Again with the attacks and unsavory innuendos; you do realize your assumption of my motivation is no different than an assumption that the tape is real, based on pure speculation, all you are actually doing is calling the kettle black.

Not at all. There is no evidence of this mystery tape whatsoever. OTOH you have made many racist comments on this board, including calls for genocide of certain groups.

Your bluff is called. Put up or shut up.