Someone try to explain to me how the Gray family deserves 6.4M?

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Vic

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The case of Freddie Gray is so interesting. An inner-city black man gets caught with a pocket knife, he's a thug and a criminal who 'deserved' his extrajudicial execution. A white conservative (who of course always carries a pocket knife) open-carries his AR15 to the grocery store, he's a 'patriot.'
But racism has nothing to do with this.
 

HamburgerBoy

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The case of Freddie Gray is so interesting. An inner-city black man gets caught with a pocket knife, he's a thug and a criminal who 'deserved' his extrajudicial execution. A white conservative (who of course always carries a pocket knife) open-carries his AR15 to the grocery store, he's a 'patriot.'
But racism has nothing to do with this.

Blame liberals that ban concealed-carry of weapons.
 
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Which actions are those? I have yet to see whether these cops, who are INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY, have actually been *FOUND GUILTY*.

OJ was never convicted earlier, but I doubt you'd muster so much as a "Hey," to defend him against someone calling him a murderer. And you'd be justified, as he was found liable for civil charges... just like the police department was here. So, you know, that's something to consider...
 

woolfe9998

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Settlements are often as much about leverage as they are about "value." For example, I had a client once who had his property taken by a city through eminent domain. We were able to prove in court that the property was taken improperly, and for dishonest reasons. The court ordered that the property be returned. The trouble is that the city had a $50M development project which had already started on the property. So the settlement was that they paid my client 5x the appraised value of the property. It's not that the property was worth that much. It's that we had leverage which, if used, could have cost the city a lot more than they paid.

I think in a case like Freddie Gray the city doesn't want a civil trial with a bunch of publicity. They've gotten enough bad publicity about it as it is.
 

JSt0rm

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The case of Freddie Gray is so interesting. An inner-city black man gets caught with a pocket knife, he's a thug and a criminal who 'deserved' his extrajudicial execution. A white conservative (who of course always carries a pocket knife) open-carries his AR15 to the grocery store, he's a 'patriot.'
But racism has nothing to do with this.


there are piles of racists around here. Its pretty disappointing to see actually. They dont see freddie as a human they see him as some kind of animal that deserves death. So in their minds its impossible his life was worth any settlement let alone 6.5 mill.

What is the saying (or song lyric I guess):

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If you are an upper class white male stfu already about what a black mans life is worth. They had enough of that in the past. Maybe they know the system is rigged against them. Maybe they know they will never rise above that poverty. Maybe they know they will never get a job, eat a healthy meal or actual enjoy living in the ways we know. Maybe they gave up.

Because in the end they are just as human and just as weak as all of us. Because I can tell you I would be in a most helpless state if I grew up in such poverty with no way out and chances are most of you would be too.
 

Vic

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No. Gun control/knife control are leftist policies. Everyone knows this.
Ok, I think you missed the point. The knife that Freddie was packing was legal, and I'm super confident that he wouldn't have fared any better if he had been open-carrying an AR in rural South Carolina.
The right has their own policy on gun control. It's called some groups of people are called patriots when they carry, and other groups are called thugs. Everyone knows this too.
 

JSt0rm

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Ok, I think you missed the point. The knife that Freddie was packing was legal, and I'm super confident that he wouldn't have fared any better if he had been open-carrying an AR in rural South Carolina.
The right has their own policy on gun control. It's called some groups of people are called patriots when they carry, and other groups are called thugs. Everyone knows this too.

He doesn't actual care. He just wants to cloud the issue.
 

HamburgerBoy

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Nah, white people get arrested at least for illegal carrying in the northeast plenty. Even though the knife may have been legal, a mindset that cops are supposed to protect people from themselves and pointy objects allows them to make (or attempt) illegal arrests. Same as any case where a guy legally carries a rifle into a store and scares those around him.
 

HamburgerBoy

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He doesn't actual care. He just wants to cloud the issue.

I don't have anything against the settlement or serious criminal charges for the cops responsible for his death. There's just no comparison between a black guy with a knife getting arrested in a black, liberal city to a white guy with a gun being praised for open-carrying in a white, conservative town. That's clouding the issue.
 

JSt0rm

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Nah, white people get arrested at least for illegal carrying in the northeast plenty. Even though the knife may have been legal, a mindset that cops are supposed to protect people from themselves and pointy objects allows them to make (or attempt) illegal arrests. Same as any case where a guy legally carries a rifle into a store and scares those around him.

So because liberals.
 

HamburgerBoy

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So because liberals.

Yes, living in a liberal police state will increase the odds of being arrested or harassed for carrying something scary (unless it's marijuana in which case the conservative police states fare worse).
 

umbrella39

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Are you saying that the city should face more in damages if they violate the civil rights of a rich person vs. a poor person?

The award is in large part to make the city think about changing its police procedures.

That's exactly what he is saying.
 

umbrella39

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When a service member dies, the person directed gets 400k. Seems pretty even right? It'll never happen, but I'd be ok with someone's family being paid for the worth of the person who died. But that would be incredibly hard to do, and will never happen.

They'll blow through whatever the amount is they get, and be back on EBT cards, section 8 and food stamps before long.

You are a POS. Don't fool yourself, you are as worthless as you expect them to be.
 

Vic

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Nah, white people get arrested at least for illegal carrying in the northeast plenty. Even though the knife may have been legal, a mindset that cops are supposed to protect people from themselves and pointy objects allows them to make (or attempt) illegal arrests. Same as any case where a guy legally carries a rifle into a store and scares those around him.
Yeah, that's great and all, but with this particular case, it's the people who claim the loudest to support the right to bear arms who are also supporting the police for killing a guy just for carrying a weapon.
Things like this are why, many years ago, I decided to stop paying attention to what people claim to believe, and to start paying more attention to what they're actually doing.
 

JSt0rm

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You are a POS. Don't fool yourself, you are as worthless as you expect them to be.

He finds comfort in thinking he is at least worth more then those people. That's the uncomfortable truth of a lot of racists.
 

umbrella39

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He finds comfort in thinking he is at least worth more then those people. That's the uncomfortable truth of a lot of racists.

I wouldn't give a coupon for a free Big Mac for him... the transition to Stormfront lite continues...
 

HamburgerBoy

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Yeah, that's great and all, but with this particular case, it's the people who claim the loudest to support the right to bear arms who are also supporting the police for killing a guy just for carrying a weapon.
Things like this are why, many years ago, I decided to stop paying attention to what people claim to believe, and to start paying more attention to what they're actually doing.

tbh I think they support police killing him because of his past criminal record, not this one particular arrest. I'm pretty sure there are already at least a couple gun-loving conservative fellows in this thread that support the settlement.
 

JSt0rm

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I wouldn't give a coupon for a free Big Mac for him... the transition to Stormfront lite continues...

Hardocp political form is the same although he had enough sense to hide it behind a paywall. I think he likes it like that. This place has slide down. I think after Obama was elected that all freaked out and are hella against any blacks getting out of that shit again.
 

steppinthrax

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Its a good thing they didn't ask what a complete idiot thinks about this then. Who also doesn't appear to understand the word punitive.

LOL.

I don't give a fuck for this family and what they lost. I lived in Baltimore. I worked in the city for 4 years. Freddie Gray and all the others TAKE AWAY from Baltimore. It wouldn't surprise me that throughout his life (if he were alive) he would harm/kill several people directly/indirectly.
 
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Ok, I think you missed the point. The knife that Freddie was packing was legal, and I'm super confident that he wouldn't have fared any better if he had been open-carrying an AR in rural South Carolina.
The right has their own policy on gun control. It's called some groups of people are called patriots when they carry, and other groups are called thugs. Everyone knows this too.

The knife might not have been considered legal. I believe it had some kind of quick one handed open feature. The DA dropped the false arrest charge because of the knife.
Keep in mind this doesn't mean he had any nefarious plans for the knife but it was questionable if it was legal.
However great point on the open carry.

We all know this is what happens to open carry black guys.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EvW_zBvJlsA
 
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there are piles of racists around here. Its pretty disappointing to see actually. They dont see freddie as a human they see him as some kind of animal that deserves death. So in their minds its impossible his life was worth any settlement let alone 6.5 mill.

What is the saying (or song lyric I guess):

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If you are an upper class white male stfu already about what a black mans life is worth. They had enough of that in the past. Maybe they know the system is rigged against them. Maybe they know they will never rise above that poverty. Maybe they know they will never get a job, eat a healthy meal or actual enjoy living in the ways we know. Maybe they gave up.

Because in the end they are just as human and just as weak as all of us. Because I can tell you I would be in a most helpless state if I grew up in such poverty with no way out and chances are most of you would be too.

Don't you have some more pictures, movitations, and other general "People Don't understand me!!! /cry" pictures like that to post on your Facebook status?