Someone told me some story about Rumsfeld announcing on September 10th 2001 that the DoD was missing 2.3 trillion

dahunan

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What is up with that story.. anyone else ever hear about it..

I don't have time to write much about it.. just asking..
 

LegendKiller

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Sounds like utter crap to me. 2.3tril would be almost 1/4 of outstanding national debt and more than 3 years of total defense spending allocations.
 

dahunan

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reminder.. Google can be your friend

DoD Corruption is one of the biggest threats we face
 

dahunan

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Ah.. whats a couple trillion (000,000,000,000,000) between friends ;)

That is a lot of secrets...
 

dualsmp

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RvLL--vSsA&search=rumsfeld

Check this video link. It is actually 3.4 Trillion dollars missing from DOD. Cynthia McKinney also asks some tough questions about Dyncorp child kidnapping as well as war game drills simultaneously taking place during 9/11 attacks.

And you wonder why the media has launched a smear campaign against McKinney lately. :disgust:
 

lozina

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Did anyone see 2.4 trillion dollars alying around? I swear I had it in my pocket a second ago.. it's gotta be somewher eont he floor here...
 

Acanthus

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Originally posted by: dahunan
Ah.. whats a couple trillion (000,000,000,000,000) between friends ;)

That is a lot of secrets...

Not really, how much do you think the F-117 and B-2-B costed to develop?

Ill give you a hint, both were secret programs, and both couldve easily pushed to 12 digits.
 

beyoku

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Originally posted by: dualsmp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RvLL--vSsA&search=rumsfeld

Check this video link. It is actually 3.4 Trillion dollars missing from DOD. Cynthia McKinney also asks some tough questions about Dyncorp child kidnapping as well as war game drills simultaneously taking place during 9/11 attacks.

And you wonder why the media has launched a smear campaign against McKinney lately. :disgust:

I like her, i can see why they are out to get here.
BTW Coz is an ass as well as fool.
 

imported_Aelius

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Originally posted by: Acanthus
Originally posted by: dahunan
Ah.. whats a couple trillion (000,000,000,000,000) between friends ;)

That is a lot of secrets...

Not really, how much do you think the F-117 and B-2-B costed to develop?

Ill give you a hint, both were secret programs, and both couldve easily pushed to 12 digits.

Black programs have their own budget. If I recall correctly it was something like 280 billion but I forget which year that was for. 2000 maybe.

So no it's not Black programs like the B2. All cash must be accounted for.

Even when Seal Team Six was a unit that did not exist on the books the money had to come from somewhere, so the cash was accounted for in other areas. $2500 hammers and $500 toilet seats etc... however the cash had to be accounted for.

This cash is not.
 

Lemon law

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I did watch the Mckinney video---clearly a case where McKinney is asking exactly the wrong type questions when its apparent that this was supposed to be the congressessional comittee whitewashes Rumsfeld show. Worse yet, there is some unrefernced prior questions McKinney had asked asked Rumsfeld--with a prior promise she would get a written responce--that never happened.

Then on March 23. 2006 she starts in and dumps on Rumsfeld---and dumps--and dumps--I am a saying you go girl--hit em again hardere harder. And Rumsfeld is a bobbing ands a weaving--trying to call her a liar but its evident McKinney has the goods. Then they call in the calvary to save Rumsfeld--first some Gal who refuses to name how our DOD can have accounting systems that lose track of that much money--then they trot out some general to confuse things further--then the Republican committee chairman promises McKinney's question would be answered---exit stage left.

So here we are 32 days later------did McKinney ever get a real written responce from Rumsfeld?

And I have to hand it to McKinney----she does know how to ask just a few a questions that really get to the heart of the matter.
 

bamacre

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This is insane. 3.4 Trillion dollars missing?

Do you all have any idea just how much money that is?
 

MadRat

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I heard the $1.1 Trillion figure, never the $3.4 Trillion. Simply amazing. I want a piece of this action, too!
 

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Maybe Osama is really working with the US government and was under orders to attack the US on 9/11 so that the attention of the public would be diverted from all that missing cash. It's brilliant really. Just as fiendish as how the US government continuously provoked the Japanese during WW2 and then allowed Pearl Harbor to be bombed so that we had an excuse to join the war without pissing off the citizens.
 

bamacre

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Originally posted by: sandmanwake
Maybe Osama is really working with the US government and was under orders to attack the US on 9/11 so that the attention of the public would be diverted from all that missing cash. It's brilliant really. Just as fiendish as how the US government continuously provoked the Japanese during WW2 and then allowed Pearl Harbor to be bombed so that we had an excuse to join the war without pissing off the citizens.

Or the PNAC'ians are getting ready to take over the USA.

Steal trillions through DoD and Iraq expenditures. Bankrupt the USA via endless war, starting with Iraq. End the gov't as we know it. Use money to "secure" the people, and fill the vacuum, securing power. The new capital will be in TX.
 

imported_Aelius

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Originally posted by: sandmanwake
Maybe Osama is really working with the US government and was under orders to attack the US on 9/11 so that the attention of the public would be diverted from all that missing cash. It's brilliant really. Just as fiendish as how the US government continuously provoked the Japanese during WW2 and then allowed Pearl Harbor to be bombed so that we had an excuse to join the war without pissing off the citizens.

You forgot a very important one that arguably lead to the US public's support of the US entering WWI: The sinking of the Lusitania by a German U-boat

From a Sunday Times article:

"The fact is that the ship sank in 18 minutes. That could only happen as the result of a massive second explosion. We know there was such an explosion, and the only thing capable of doing that is ammunitions. It's virtually impossible to get coal dust and damp air in the right mixture to explode, and none of the crew who were working in the boiler rooms and survived say anything about a boiler exploding. I don't think there's any question that there was a steamline explosion, but that wouldn't have damaged the ship to the point where it sunk in 18 minutes. It's blarney, part of another cover story. "
 

Lemon law

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We are still mising the point--------------its about the lies---this money isn't missing--it just unaccounted for.

So you ask Rummy---------what gives--how could 3.4 times 10 to the 12 power go unaccounted for??

Rummy looks down from high--and with the distain reserved for a retarded person answers with lie 2--the cheap scate congress never gave us proper accounting systems--so our computers don't talk to each other. This is supposed to make the question go away.

But only the truly dangerous ask that followup question Mc Kinney did--who has this computer contractt to supply computers that don't talk to each other?

Clearly its now the truth Vs. Rumsfeld--------but the acid test is--did Mc Kinney ever get the written answers she was promised?
 

bamacre

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Originally posted by: Lemon law
We are still mising the point--------------its about the lies---this money isn't missing--it just unaccounted for.

So you ask Rummy---------what gives--how could 3.4 times 10 to the 12 power go unaccounted for??

Rummy looks down from high--and with the distain reserved for a retarded person answers with lie 2--the cheap scate congress never gave us proper accounting systems--so our computers don't talk to each other. This is supposed to make the question go away.

But only the truly dangerous ask that followup question Mc Kinney did--who has this computer contractt to supply computers that don't talk to each other?

Clearly its now the truth Vs. Rumsfeld--------but the acid test is--did Mc Kinney ever get the written answers she was promised?

Nope.
 

FrancesBeansRevenge

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We should be storming the capital with pitchforks demanding the heads of these crooks but we're far more concerned with what 'Brangelina' had for breakfast this morning.

We suck.
 

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I just made a thread about a movie called "Why We Fight" which is centered on exactly this.

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=52&threadid=1849198&enterthread=y

In that thread, click on the movie link and on that page watch all the little clips from the movie. If you want, at least watch the one titled 'The Missing C[for Congress]'.
You will learn a little bit about how the weapons industry works with Congress. For example, regarding the B-2 Bomber, parts for it are manufactured in every single state in the Union. It was planned that way so that if anyone in Congress tried to phase out the program, they would get lashed by everyone else. I strongly urge you guys to check out the link, some very interesting stuff there.