Someone on Ebay trying to scam me! What to do?

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Stumps

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Jun 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: MWink
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: MWink
Originally posted by: Rock Hydra
Pics?

(not that I don't believe you, I just want to see, is all)

I don't have anywhere to upload them at the moment. If anyone wants to host them or can tell me where to get some free webspace I'll be happy to provide them.


Here ya go.

Thanks, here they are. I just noticed that even the model numbers don't match! LOL

His1.JPG
His2.JPG
My1.jpg
My2.JPG

Warning: they are large.

yep, definately a different mobo, different serial numbers on the NIC, and a HUGE difference in compenent layout around the DIMM slots.

send him the photos and then tell him that he will never see his money again.

Then go to the police and file a complaint.
 

Kelemvor

Lifer
May 23, 2002
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Originally posted by: BrunoPuntzJones
Unfortunately an easy one to answer

You shipped to an unconfirmed address

All he has to do is file a Significantly Not As Described, show proof that you received the package, and he wins the dispute

Paypal will debit your account for the amount, leaving you with a negative balance. If you don't pay it back, they'll send it to collections

If it makes you feel better though, even if he was confirmed and he shipped you back a box of shoes he'd still win. PP will always side with the buyer :mad;

Paypal might side with him but he could always jsut take him to court and he'd win there easily. ANd it will cost the other guy tons of money since you might be able to even have to have him pay for your court costs.

But I'd go the Mail Fraud route because he obviously did this on purpose and probably did it to other people. People like this deserve to go to jail. I'd feel no pity for him at all.
 

Baked

Lifer
Dec 28, 2004
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Mail fraud is a US Federal Crime! Report his ass to his local FBI office and LOL @ him when he gets sent to PMITA prison.
 
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Originally posted by: Baked
Mail fraud is a US Federal Crime! Report his ass to his local FBI office and LOL @ him when he gets sent to PMITA prison.

Meh they don't care. Too many other things for them to work on. On something I was working on a guy stole and sold several hundred thousand dollars worth of parts from a place and sold them on eBay. Nothing ever came of it. Though when a guy stole a couple of tank engines he stole from the Armory here they sure got on it... :(
 

MWink

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Here's the email I just got from him:

wow, i'm so sorry about that. i was sure i put everything in the
box
when i packed it up. i looked around and ya, i found a little white box
with
the manuals and stuff right next to the place where i had packed the
shuttle
back in it's box >_< but what do you mean your motherboard? i didn't
do
anything with the board other than put my parts in it to try and get it
going; which it didn't do. why are you saying i didn't return your
motherboard? i realize that you might not be happy that the shuttle
ended up
being DOA, but come on, it's not your motherboard? what would be the
point
in me taking the board anyway; i don't have another shuttle to put it
in.
besides, if i wanted a socket A motherboard i could have gotten one for
cheaper that the $170 this one is ending up costing me. so what
happends
now? you have everytyhing at this point; my money and the shuttle that
i got
from you that ended up being DOA, let me know
 

Stumps

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Jun 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: MWink
Here's the email I just got from him:

wow, i'm so sorry about that. i was sure i put everything in the
box
when i packed it up. i looked around and ya, i found a little white box
with
the manuals and stuff right next to the place where i had packed the
shuttle
back in it's box >_< but what do you mean your motherboard? i didn't
do
anything with the board other than put my parts in it to try and get it
going; which it didn't do. why are you saying i didn't return your
motherboard? i realize that you might not be happy that the shuttle
ended up
being DOA, but come on, it's not your motherboard? what would be the
point
in me taking the board anyway; i don't have another shuttle to put it
in.
besides, if i wanted a socket A motherboard i could have gotten one for
cheaper that the $170 this one is ending up costing me. so what
happends
now? you have everytyhing at this point; my money and the shuttle that
i got
from you that ended up being DOA, let me know

did you tell him that you had photo's and that you were going to inform the authorities?
 

sswingle

Diamond Member
Mar 2, 2000
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Originally posted by: MWink
Here's the email I just got from him:

wow, i'm so sorry about that. i was sure i put everything in the
box
when i packed it up. i looked around and ya, i found a little white box
with
the manuals and stuff right next to the place where i had packed the
shuttle
back in it's box >_< but what do you mean your motherboard? i didn't
do
anything with the board other than put my parts in it to try and get it
going; which it didn't do. why are you saying i didn't return your
motherboard? i realize that you might not be happy that the shuttle
ended up
being DOA, but come on, it's not your motherboard? what would be the
point
in me taking the board anyway; i don't have another shuttle to put it
in.
besides, if i wanted a socket A motherboard i could have gotten one for
cheaper that the $170 this one is ending up costing me. so what
happends
now? you have everytyhing at this point; my money and the shuttle that
i got
from you that ended up being DOA, let me know

Thats a big long drawn out attempt at acting innocent. Email some pics stat!
 

cirthix

Diamond Member
Aug 28, 2004
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Originally posted by: Stumps
Originally posted by: MWink
Here's the email I just got from him:

wow, i'm so sorry about that. i was sure i put everything in the
box
when i packed it up. i looked around and ya, i found a little white box
with
the manuals and stuff right next to the place where i had packed the
shuttle
back in it's box >_< but what do you mean your motherboard? i didn't
do
anything with the board other than put my parts in it to try and get it
going; which it didn't do. why are you saying i didn't return your
motherboard? i realize that you might not be happy that the shuttle
ended up
being DOA, but come on, it's not your motherboard? what would be the
point
in me taking the board anyway; i don't have another shuttle to put it
in.
besides, if i wanted a socket A motherboard i could have gotten one for
cheaper that the $170 this one is ending up costing me. so what
happends
now? you have everytyhing at this point; my money and the shuttle that
i got
from you that ended up being DOA, let me know

did you tell him that you had photo's and that you were going to inform the authorities?


he really elaborated on the "your mobo" part.
 

Suture

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Sep 17, 2003
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Wow, good eyes for catching this, OP. I'm very interested in hearing the final outcome.
 

woowoo

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Feb 17, 2003
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Originally posted by: Suture
Wow, good eyes for catching this, OP. I'm very interested in hearing the final outcome.


Sorry to say but paypal will probably side with the buyer.....

 

sswingle

Diamond Member
Mar 2, 2000
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Originally posted by: woowoo
Originally posted by: Suture
Wow, good eyes for catching this, OP. I'm very interested in hearing the final outcome.


Sorry to say but paypal will probably side with the buyer.....

How could they possibly do that, especially if the OP provides pics.

Also why I don't accept returns on computer parts. Sold as is.
 

rudder

Lifer
Nov 9, 2000
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Originally posted by: MWink

Here's the email I sent him:

I received the computer today and have taken a quick
look at it. It does appear to do what you described.
However, you did not return everything I sent you.
You forgot the box with the manuals, hardware, etc.
You also forgot to return MY motherboard! Please
explain.



I do have pictures I took before I shipped it and obviously I can take pictures of what he sent me. I shipped it to him UPS and he shipped it back USPS so would that still count as mail fraud? I've been looking at Ebay and Paypal. I think I found a way to report it to Ebay but I'm not sure how to with Paypal. Unfortunately I noticed that this transaction does not qualify for Paypal's seller protection because he doesn't have a confirmed address. Any idea how to report it to Paypal? BTW thanks for all the help.

Take Dobbs advice... close your paypal account now or remove bank/credit card info immediately.

You messed up by sending to an unconfirmed address, but in this case I don't think it would matter. He has evidence he shipped something back... that is all paypal needs. File the fraud reports first.
 

DaWhim

Lifer
Feb 3, 2003
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Originally posted by: ScottSwingleComputers
Originally posted by: woowoo
Originally posted by: Suture
Wow, good eyes for catching this, OP. I'm very interested in hearing the final outcome.


Sorry to say but paypal will probably side with the buyer.....

How could they possibly do that, especially if the OP provides pics.

Also why I don't accept returns on computer parts. Sold as is.

paypal usually side with the buyer. I have heard enough horror stories about it. payla doesn't give a crap about what is the whole story.

did he use delivery confirmation with usps?

like other has said. take the money back to your bank account NOW. paypal will most likely take the money from you.
 

j00fek

Diamond Member
Dec 19, 2005
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i woudl say you sh!t out of luck, you never change parts and expect the cash back.
 

AnyMal

Lifer
Nov 21, 2001
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Originally posted by: DaWhim
Originally posted by: ScottSwingleComputers
Originally posted by: woowoo
Originally posted by: Suture
Wow, good eyes for catching this, OP. I'm very interested in hearing the final outcome.


Sorry to say but paypal will probably side with the buyer.....

How could they possibly do that, especially if the OP provides pics.

Also why I don't accept returns on computer parts. Sold as is.

paypal usually side with the buyer. I have heard enough horror stories about it. payla doesn't give a crap about what is the whole story.

did he use delivery confirmation with usps?

like other has said. take the money back to your bank account NOW. paypal will most likely take the money from you.

Can we please stop giving bad advice to the OP? Cleaning out his PP account will not protect OP should they rule in favor of the buyer. PP will either withdraw money from his linked checking account, or worse yet, will send his account to colleltion agency which will go on his credit report.

As for the "horror stories" you've heard.. As someone who has been involved in several PP disputes both as a buyer and a seller I can tell you firsthand that PP will rule in favor of the buyer only if seller outright lied about his item, or did not do his due diligence. PP has no interest in pissing off sellers, since sellers pay all the PP fees, not the buyers.
 

WolverineGator

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Mar 20, 2001
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Originally posted by: franguinho
yeah... grab that money and bail! :p

This means you're going to lose your paypal account. You will have a negative balance and won't be able to do anything until it's paid back. They'll also warn you that they will put a bad mark on your credit report. I know 'cause this happened to me. I'm not sure I'd be willing to risk that...

I'd pursue the mail fraud route and his police department while stringing him along (have him ship the missing parts?) so he doesn't take action against you first.
 

chambersc

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Feb 11, 2005
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I would write him back with a short, rather terse email providing the pics and saying "I will be contacting paypal, filing a mail fraud complaint through the USPS (which is a Federal crime, mind you), and contacting your local police department."
 

Rumpltzer

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Jun 7, 2003
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Those two motherboards don't match at all... his has an extra short, black and white capacitor next to the green one blocking the SN. His also has the two 2x5 poinouts in front of the AGP slot.

That's a lot of nerve trying to pull something like that. It's impressive.
 

AbsolutDealage

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Dec 20, 2002
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Originally posted by: HomeAppraiser
His local police department. "What's Ebay?""

"He replaced your... motherb... wha??"

"Yea, we'll get right on this *circular file*."

Hopefully something will come of it, but I have a feeling that they have bigger fish to fry.

 

zebano

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Jun 15, 2005
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Excellent job documenting everything. You definatly need to be in contact with his local PD. It may seem mean spirited, but if he gets away with this, he will screw someone else. Also inform Paypal and ebay that you will be settling this in court and invite them to observe the proceedings (or at least inform you what they need from you). Continue to be proactive and don't let this guy get away.

Well done so far.
 

Born2bwire

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Oct 28, 2005
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Originally posted by: zebano
Excellent job documenting everything. You definatly need to be in contact with his local PD. It may seem mean spirited, but if he gets away with this, he will screw someone else. Also inform Paypal and ebay that you will be settling this in court and invite them to observe the proceedings (or at least inform you what they need from you). Continue to be proactive and don't let this guy get away.

Well done so far.

The main motivation I would say is not only have a record for yourself that you're the victim, but also because guys like these usually pull this crap more then once. While reporting an attempted/successful con of $200 to the local cops is not going to raise any eyebrows, if half a dozen people report it then they will do something. I've seen this on other forums where one guy rips off a bunch of individuals for a few ton each. But once everyone reported the thefts to the cops, they usually go around and have a talk with the scammer.