Someone needs to be held accountable...

[amdhunter]

Put them all in the street. Those kids are at that age where it's good to start learning how to survive homelessness.

 

[Bignate603]

Bignate's idea seems the most realistic. Government money is there if you need it, but you need to do a bunch of dull busy work that sucks. Sort of like the work at McDonalds. Wipe this counter even though the counter is cleaner than the drug addicts who come in the door. Mop the floor even though it's already clean. Wash your hands after using the bathroom even though I obviously did not shit on my hands this time. Pointless busy work.

Personally I wouldn't even want it as pleasant as wiping down counters and things. That's boring but not really unpleasant. Have them do jobs that require no skill but are physically hard. After a few weeks of demanding labor they'd take a job wiping counters at a McDonald's in a heartbeat.

The whole point of attaching the welfare check to work is to lower the incentive to stay on welfare for a long period. You want it to have it there if someone really needs it, but you also want the person to be highly motivated to get off welfare.

 

[Ronstang]

I wonder what point we have to get to for people to realize that women like this with their "open vag" policy with limited to no means of even supporting themselves need to be held accountable?

 

[ShawnD1]

I agree sort-of.

Just daycare for one kid can potentially make 'having a job' pay less than welfare. In fact, daycare can easily cost more than the total pay for a crappy job.

True that. Day care for some people is more expensive than my rent. This is why some of the more socialist countries have free day care. It means you can actually have a job that is worth doing.
If getting a job at mcdicks meant I needed to pay out 10k/yr for day care, I would stay home and smoke meth all day. What's the point of working if it all goes to day care?

 

[waggy]

I agree sort-of.

Just daycare for one kid can potentially make 'having a job' pay less than welfare. In fact, daycare can easily cost more than the total pay for a crappy job.

Increase the number of kids, and it becomes absolute that daycare will cost more than work pays. So staying home with the kids is often the 'highest paying' job under the current system.

We can all bitch and moan all we like about this, but it's reality. My guess is that as the economy continues to shift away from manufacturing, with lower-value service jobs filling the void, this problem is going to get worse, not better.

So either we find a comprehensive way to attack the problem head-on, or we end up fucked.

i agree with that. Daycare is fucking insane.

friends of my wife's pays $250 a week for 1 kid and that is at salvation army with a reduced cost. the lady only makes $300 a week after taxes.

i can understand why many with kids don't get a job at that point.