Someone explain to me what a neocon is.

[GoingUp]

I see it thrown around here all the time as an insult, yet I firmly believe that over half of the posters who use it, have no idea what it means.

I've never used the term, but wonder what the people who do use it, think it means.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

A key tenet of neocons is to advance the agenda of the US, to the point of military action. It is an active policy, not a defensive one. The ends justify the means, and if war furthers their agenda, so be it. It has liberal 1960's roots and believes that even though social engineering didn't work then, it will work in places like the middle east.

 

[sierrita]

Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
I see it thrown around here all the time as an insult, yet I firmly believe that over half of the posters who use it, have no idea what it means.

I've never used the term, but wonder what the people who do use it, think it means.

Just google it and quit trying to play "gotcha" games.

:disgust:

 

[Carmen813]

after the bush administration, unemployed.

 

[PrinceofWands]

Neocon WIKI

On a related note, that I find funnier than words can express:

PNAC website

 

[Zebo]

Started as a epithet by old conservatives (think America first commitee, paleoconservatives types) who branded 'mugged by reality' leftists who joined the republican party and Cold war worry warts who morphed into 'Neocons' - a group who still liked big govt and using that govt to throw their weight around on a global scale to make the world 'better.'

They have a lust for aggression starting in the cold war period and are heavily financed and maintained by the insatiable military industrial complex who will never see their budgets drop a penny if they have anything to say about it. And they do.

 

[nageov3t]

a neocon is basically what everyone (well, the 90% of this forum that leans left) calls anyone who disagrees with their positions.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Neocon WIKI

On a related note, that I find funnier than words can express:

PNAC website

Now that's funny.

 

[fallout man]

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Neocon WIKI

On a related note, that I find funnier than words can express:

PNAC website

Now that's funny.

You made me click both!

That IS funny indeed!

 

[chriskwarren]

Originally posted by: Carmen813
after the bush administration, unemployed.

Lol...If we were so lucky...they will all find jobs somewhere until another puppet president comes along

 

[bamacre]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism

http://www.amazon.com/Neo-cons...&qid=1212456494&sr=8-1

 

[jpeyton]

They're easy to spot on this forum.

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
They're easy to spot on this forum.

Not so much though. Since people seem to lump anyone who favors military aggression as a neocon.

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: jpeyton
They're easy to spot on this forum.

Not so much though. Since people seem to lump anyone who favors military aggression as a neocon.

Even I favor military aggression...in Afghanistan.

They're easy to spot, trust me. Just look for the guys dressed like Conquistadors.

 

[Bitek]

A foreign policy philosophy conservatives cheered on and bashed liberals for from 9/11 thru 2004. From 2006 to the present, neoconservativism is a philosophy conservatives pretended to never hear of, and much less approve of when liberal criticisms turned out to be largely correct.

 

[dahunan]

CUR http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/cur

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=PNAC
^^ LOL - the original site has been suspended... Probably didn't pay their bills just like they do in the real world

 

[Lemon law]

Originally posted by: loki8481
a neocon is basically what everyone (well, the 90% of this forum that leans left) calls anyone who disagrees with their positions.

Once again Loki spouts bullshit. The specter of neocons, PNAC, and total failure dominates our current reality. See their brainfarts, run Dick, run. Run GWB run, run McSame run.

Even if there is any reality to the contention that neocons originated from delusional democrats
still in denial about losing the Vietnam war, they are totally GOP monsters now and lets call a spade a spade.

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: Lemon law

Originally posted by: loki8481
a neocon is basically what everyone (well, the 90% of this forum that leans left) calls anyone who disagrees with their positions.

Once again Loki spouts bullshit. The specter of neocons, PNAC, and total failure dominates our current reality. See their brainfarts, run Dick, run. Run GWB run, run McSame run.

Even if there is any reality to the contention that neocons originated from delusional democrats
still in denial about losing the Vietnam war, they are totally GOP monsters now and lets call a spade a spade.

that's great, but neocon is still the go-to insult whenever someone on these forums has a disagreement with someone who falls to the right of them, regardless of whether they actually fit the definition of a neocon.

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: loki8481
that's great, but neocon is still the go-to insult whenever someone on these forums has a disagreement with someone who falls to the right of them, regardless of whether they actually fit the definition of a neocon.

Or

Whenever? If that's true, you ought to easily be able to provide us with 10-20 examples, mininum, just from the last few days. But take the last two week period, why don't you, and dazzle us with your list!

Or are you just crying wolf?

 

[railer]

libs, greenies, neocons.....all insults used by the brain dead.

Remember when you used to call people 4 eyes and metal mouth in the 1st grade? ....pretty much the same thing.

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: Perknose

Originally posted by: loki8481
that's great, but neocon is still the go-to insult whenever someone on these forums has a disagreement with someone who falls to the right of them, regardless of whether they actually fit the definition of a neocon.

Or

Whenever? If that's true, you ought to easily be able to provide us with 10-20 examples, mininum, just from the last few days. But take the last two week period, why don't you, and dazzle us with your list!

Or are you just crying wolf?

doesn't seem like a fair challenge when the search function sucks so badly

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: Perknose

Originally posted by: loki8481
that's great, but neocon is still the go-to insult whenever someone on these forums has a disagreement with someone who falls to the right of them, regardless of whether they actually fit the definition of a neocon.

Or

Whenever? If that's true, you ought to easily be able to provide us with 10-20 examples, mininum, just from the last few days. But take the last two week period, why don't you, and dazzle us with your list!

Or are you just crying wolf?

doesn't seem like a fair challenge when the search function sucks so badly

Well, yeah, there's that . . .

Fortunately, I have a solution. Start marking all examples you run accross for the next week. Then come here on June 90th and regale us with your "scroll"!

At least one of us will learn something if you do!

 

[ProfJohn]

I don't think people engage in out right name calling.

Instead they try to lump anyone who supports the war into one big all encompassing group.

The reality is that the number of true neocons is rather small compared to other conservative groups.

I also think that the name 'neocon' has become so distorted that it has no practical meaning anymore.

 

[Moonbeam]

Neocon is nocoen spelled backward.

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
The reality is that the number of true neocons is rather small compared to other conservative groups.

Yet their representation and influence and power within the Bush administration was astoundingly high. They got Bush's ear through Cheyney, and they essentially got to run the show.