Somebody PLEASE help me out w/ this problem and figure it out!

DigitalCancer

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Ok..i've been through this before, thought i'd try again and see if anyone can help. I am posting this in 'Tech Support' and OS, so if the mods object..just LMK and i'll remove one.

My current setup:

OCZ 600w PSU
Asus P5W DH DLX
E6400 (stock w/ a Scythe Ninja)
x2 1GB GEIL PC2-6400 (stock)
x1 eVGA 7600GT KO
x2 Maxtor 300GB SATA2
x1 Samsung DVDRW

Ok...the problem:

When I boot into windows, i lag for about 5-7secs at the 'welcome' screen. HD light quits blinking for the time (even though the 'windows' sound will play just before') and then it continues to load as usual. Well, it does this AFTER a reboot. Its usually whenever i install a program (not anything specific, its random) but earlier i realized that it had done it WITHOUT me installing anything. I can do a system restore, and it'll be fine (until i install something and reboot).

Now, to make it clear...

I do a clean install. Install my basic programs which consist of:

Winamp, WinRAR, QuickPAR, ICQ/MSN, FireFox, ALL updated drivers for chipset, video card, etc.

Then restart (everything usually ok).

I start to install bigger programs. (Office 2003, Photoshop 8, Media Player, DirectX 9, Nero, and...GAMES)

I usually restart somewhere before the games to make sure everything is ok...sometimes it is, sometimes its not. I had one instance where i installed Office, restart and it was hanging. I done System Restore, install Office again...restarted, and it was fine. SO IT'S NOT PROGRAM SPECIFIC.

This last install went really well, i had installed EVERYTHING, including games with not a problem. (this is when i go the new board) and i hadn't had time to do anything in the past couple days b/c i was writing my essay. I restart after a couple days of being up and low and behold...it hangs. I had not installed ANY programs. Just ran office and firefox...thats it.

Now i know you're saying this isn't that big of a deal, but it is to me, its just annoying.
Heres the things i have tried:

Replaced PSU (from 500w Ultra to an OCZ 600w)
Replaced Motherboard (from a Foxconn 975X7AB to an ASUS P5W-DH DLX)
Replaced Ram (from OCZ 800mhz to GEIL 800mhz)

- I have formatted, multiple times.
- used different install discs
- tried different 'windows' OS (media center - XP pro)
- I've installed all programs, one by one - restarting after EACH one is installed.
- got all the updates
- reset the BIOS
- updated BIOS to latest
- taken everything out and re-assembled
- i've ran memtest 86 on the ram (each stick alone, then both) 0-errors
- Also have scanned for Virus's with Avast and AVG
- used RegMechanic


Oh yea...heres screenshots. I used the program 'BootVIS' which will let you know whats starting up and everything. Look at the first program, 'explorer.exe'

This is my wifes

This is mine
 

nullpointerus

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Originally posted by: DigitalCancer
nobody knows i guess?

Do you have a link to the previous thread?

New people probably don't want to make suggestions that you've already tried, and your previous troubleshooting might shed some light on the underlying problem.
 

Arcex

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Does this happen right after windows finishes installing or after you start installing whatever software you use?

If it's after 3rd party software that might be it, if it's after windows maybe its a bad windows disk but I've never heard of anything like that happening with a bad disk. there any scratches on it, or do you have another O.S. you can install, even if its only to test it?
 

nullpointerus

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If I understand you correctly, the freezing occurs only during startup. If that's true, I really don't think your problem is due to a corrupted registry. Most likely there is some part of a program being installed that is playing havoc with the normal startup routine.

1. When you install programs or drivers, sometimes they insert into the registry a list of things to do on the next boot (usually related to removing old files or performing some test). When the problem occurs, could you try at least two reboots to see if it's temporary or permanent?

2. nVidia drivers had a habit of crippling my startup times in XP. The system would randomly sit at the boot logo for up to a minute. Try uninstalling the video drivers and see if the system boots without that 8-20 sec. delay. Also try to remove the nForce drivers (really just the IDE/RAID stuff, in fact).
 

DigitalCancer

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both of you above me their have great points..BUT...

The last time i installed..i restarted after EVERY program. I installed, i believe, Office 2003, restarted and it froze. I done system restore, everything was fine. I then installed Office 2003 again and restarted, nothing. Worked fine. Then i installed Winamp, restarted,..nothing. Then i installed photoshop, restarted..freeze. System restore, everything was fine, re-installed PS, restarted, worked fine. So its not a specific program or anything.

I have ALL updated drivers for components as well as the newest bios. I will try your point of uninstalling the nvidia drivers right now, i'll go ahead and d/l the new ones from the site, altho i believe they're the ones i've got, but..i'll uninstall and see if that helps, i have not tried it so its worth a shot. btw, i have nothing starting up except for my logitech mouse stuff and steam. Which neither were starting up until AFTER i started having this prob so i know they're not the culprits. I'll update ina few mins!
 

Allanv

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Check your HDD's are in DMA mode and if your feeling brave turn off system restore and see if the problem goes away.

But only if your feeling brave as it will delete all your restore points!!!!!
 

DigitalCancer

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Yea, the HD's are in DMA. Haven't tried shutting off system restore, but at this point it doesn't matter. ^_^ I don't feel like running thru all of my settings again so...i may go ahead and give that a try and see if it helps.