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Some SDD benchmark Tools Not Safe!

hah that is too conservative. Any multimedia file can't be compressed, so CrystalDisk and AS SSD benchmark tools are not any worse than saving a 1GB HD video to a SSD.
 
hah that is too conservative. Any multimedia file can't be compressed, so CrystalDisk and AS SSD benchmark tools are not any worse than saving a 1GB HD video to a SSD.

Interesting! I found that, I read, it it seemed believable.....but I put it up, cause I did not know to what extent it's true!

But it uspet me enuff to dump crystalDisk and the AS one.
 
This was *maybe* an issue some years back where most SSDs were only 32GB or 64GB, mostly FULL written with data *plus*most OS didn't have Trim.

Today, you can disregard this since most new OSes (and SSD firmwares) provide Trim support, and wear from writing GB of data (even daily) is simply no issue any more also for other reasons (more space on SSDs for provision, improved firmware, etc.)

In fact you could write GBs of data each and every day on a modern SSD and won't run into troubles for a decade or so.

Even if there is no reason trying to avoid writing to a SSD at all cost anymore, why on Earth would you want to benchmark your drive daily?
 
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You might want to read here:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6459/samsung-ssd-840-testing-the-endurance-of-tlc-nand

So even in a worst case scenario, with TLC NAND and writing 10GB per day (which doesn't even remotely happen UNLESS in a server environment etc.)..even with 10GB writes a day the estimated lifespan of a 128GB SSD would be 11.7 years, on a 256GB drive with more provisioning space or "more endurable" ram, such as MLC this time would go up to 70 years : ) Mind you, that's with writing a whopping 10Gb per day.

TLDR: You would have to do some "really, really extreme" benchmarking if your goal is to wear out a modern SSD
 
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You might want to read here:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6459/samsung-ssd-840-testing-the-endurance-of-tlc-nand

So even in a worst case scenario, with TLC NAND and writing 10GB per day (which doesn't even remotely happen UNLESS in a server environment etc.)..even with 10GB writes a day the estimated lifespan of a 128GB SSD would be 11.7 years, on a 256GB drive with more provisioning space or "more endurable" ram, such as MLC this time would go up to 70 years : ) Mind you, that's with writing a whopping 10Gb per day.

TLDR: You would have to do some "really, really extreme" benchmarking if your goal is to wear out a modern SSD

This is good to know. It seems those posting those ominous data in that article.....were not seeing things in perspective.

And that is exaclty why I made this thread....so my fellow members evaluate and comment on it!!! 🙂
 
This is good to know. It seems those posting those ominous data in that article.....were not seeing things in perspective.

And that is exaclty why I made this thread....so my fellow members evaluate and comment on it!!! 🙂

That wasn't an article. It was a forum thread.

Like this one.

90% of all forums posts are completely bullshit.

Like this one.

😵:whiste:

Writing a lot of data to an SSD will eventually wear it out. Eventually. But the beefs that the people in that thread had with their benchmark tools seemed more like, "I like this one because I get better scores, so the other ones are dangerous."

Which doesn't make any sense at all.
 
That wasn't an article. It was a forum thread. Like this one.

Correct.

90% of all forums posts are completely bullshit.

I don't find that to be true here. the entire net is riddle with BS.....that's a given. Being keen, discerning when chasing data should always be our default mode.

Writing a lot of data to an SSD will eventually wear it out. Eventually. But the beefs that the people in that thread had with their benchmark tools seemed more like, "I like this one because I get better scores, so the other ones are dangerous.

Above was not a part of any post in any thread on that site.
 
Correct.



I don't find that to be true here. the entire net is riddle with BS.....that's a given. Being keen, discerning when chasing data should always be our default mode.



Above was not a part of any post in any thread on that site.

I have to look at "available information" which includes the "dis" and "mis" kind as well as uninformed mistakes of judgment and analysis. It's part of the "field of information." Journalists "say" they follow the prescription to cross-check their facts with independent sources. Historians may also follow that idea. But look at it through the lens of AI.

AI is in some ways based on "predicate calculus" -- a mathematically rigorous system of using a set of axioms to make inferences. Inferences lead to more inferences. This also incorporates a notion of "state space search" or an inverted tree of possible outcomes if certain things are "TRUE" and other things are "FALSE."

So I look at forum exchanges as one source of problem-solving information, but with web-searches, this turns up two possibilities besides "SOLVED." First, people may be simply confused or mistaken. Second, the forum exchange may -- on the surface -- seem to address diagnostic indications of your problem, but further inspection shows a different context.

It's not too different from examining customer reviews. To get anything out of it at all, you need to understand "customers" [for being either stupid, naïve or knowledgeable], a little something of QC and statistical bias, and some other things. Sometimes customer reviews may "tell you something," other times -- not so much.

OF COURSE you want to look at white papers and other "more official" sources or more authoritative sources. But sometimes, adding some of the "garbage" to accumulated information may actually help. Just as long as you have a sense of subjective probability as to whether something is reliable or unreliable, informed or uninformed.

NOW ON THIS MATTER OF SSD BENCHMARKING. So?! You configure your SSD -- maybe clone your OS to it, make sure everything is tip-top and copacetic. You run some benchmarks. How many benchmarks need be run more than once -- leading to a conclusion that "everything is wonderful?"

I've run my CrystalDiskMark and my Samsung Magician. Looks good to me! TRIM is not only enabled, but working.

Nothing to be ashamed of, but I've been poking around these forums for more than 7 years. ALL of us LONGSTANDING MEMBERS . . . . are . . . "anal-retentive." Computer programmers are "anal-retentive." We're going to pick at details and minutiae until we're blue in the face!
 
Re the above.....chasing truth, coming to own it and clarity...making differential assements is rich and complex: it involves not just cognitive chops or metrics, but often intuitive acuity and subjective experience.

And, eyes by Marcel Proust, which was the linchpin of the genius of say, the late Steve Jobs. Which is why the second he saw a gui....he got all of it, while everyone else....did not.
 
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