Some said Bush is doing a good job

Artofkicking

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Someone told me they thought G. Bush was doing a good job. When asked why they felt this way, the only answer was he retaliated after 9-11. I replied..And what else? A blank face was my answer.

George Bush has done at least something else worth while...military pay raises.

Aside from that, I don't think his term has done much for us as a country. Countries who used to accept the US now do not like us. Gas prices (and subsequently everything comodity on the market) are up a good deal. Much more than the inflation rate is supposed to be by percentage (I never did figure out where polititions learned math).
On the War on terrorism: What the heck??? I thought the terrorist was supposed to be Osama and his group we were after for 9-11.?. We have spent billons on and in Iraq to fid Sadam whilw considerably less looking for Osama only in the millions. I believe Bush wanted to complete a task his father didn't. I don't think that using the sympathy and anger of a nation grieving should have been involved in that. While the job needed to be done, I feel we have been dupped. To many factors point to Iraq being the real target all along. I hate being lied to.
 

conjur

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Retaliated how after 9/11? He swatted flies in Afghanistan for a few months and then diverted into Iraq.
 

NightCrawler

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Originally posted by: conjur
Retaliated how after 9/11? He swatted flies in Afghanistan for a few months and then diverted into Iraq.

Oh conjur always so negative, he did drive out the taliban from most of the country and they are holding elections from the first time ever.

That's a pretty good start.
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: NightCrawler
Originally posted by: conjur
Retaliated how after 9/11? He swatted flies in Afghanistan for a few months and then diverted into Iraq.

Oh conjur always so negative, he did drive out the taliban from most of the country and they are holding elections from the first time ever.

That's a pretty good start.

And how many times have those elections been postponed?

How many did the Taliban just kill the other day?

How many were killed in the re-taking of an air base just the other day?

How big is that opium production now?
 

Klixxer

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Originally posted by: NightCrawler
Originally posted by: conjur
Retaliated how after 9/11? He swatted flies in Afghanistan for a few months and then diverted into Iraq.

Oh conjur always so negative, he did drive out the taliban from most of the country and they are holding elections from the first time ever.

That's a pretty good start.

Well, the job was far from done when the majority of the forces were withdrawn, i know this from first hand experience.

There is still a lot of work to be done in Afghanistan, the diversion from Afghanistan just makes no sense, there was and still is a large group of people who fight the local military, if they loose 20 people it is a BIG loss and it was not too long ago that they did.

I think the focus should be on Afghanistan, but that is too late now, Iraq is Bush's baby, if he succeeds there Afghanistan can rot and nobody will care.

The sad part is that these politics affect the lifes of those involved.
 

Klixxer

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If anything Bush has made the world less safe, Iran and NK already have or will soon have nuclear weapons, every nation on the list are going to get nuclear weapons, and it is understandable, who want's to be a target on the list of a madman?

NK has a far worse record than Iraq has ever had, the regime has prisons outside the capitol that have NEVER been visited by an outside source but there are stories from people who have made successful escapes, you know how to use google i am sure.

Iraq is nothing short of a disaster, Afghanistan is worse at this point and most of the Al Quaida leaders are still out there, recruiting these days is probably a breeze, the former allies are now shunned away and laws are proposed based on religious dogma.
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: NightCrawler
Originally posted by: conjur
Retaliated how after 9/11? He swatted flies in Afghanistan for a few months and then diverted into Iraq.

Oh conjur always so negative, he did drive out the taliban from most of the country and they are holding elections from the first time ever.

That's a pretty good start.

And how many times have those elections been postponed?

How many did the Taliban just kill the other day?

How many were killed in the re-taking of an air base just the other day?

How big is that opium production now?

uhh...hello?
 

Tab

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: NightCrawler
Originally posted by: conjur
Retaliated how after 9/11? He swatted flies in Afghanistan for a few months and then diverted into Iraq.

Oh conjur always so negative, he did drive out the taliban from most of the country and they are holding elections from the first time ever.

That's a pretty good start.

And how many times have those elections been postponed?

How many did the Taliban just kill the other day?

How many were killed in the re-taking of an air base just the other day?

How big is that opium production now?

uhh...hello?

Same as it was before the war, for the opium product :eek:
 

NightCrawler

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: NightCrawler
Originally posted by: conjur
Retaliated how after 9/11? He swatted flies in Afghanistan for a few months and then diverted into Iraq.

Oh conjur always so negative, he did drive out the taliban from most of the country and they are holding elections from the first time ever.

That's a pretty good start.

And how many times have those elections been postponed?

How many did the Taliban just kill the other day?

How many were killed in the re-taking of an air base just the other day?

How big is that opium production now?

1. They had a story on the drive to the election and I was pretty impressed with the effort they were making. It was going better then anybody had hoped.

2. How many were killed in Chicago, Detroit, LA, etc ?

3. How much crack, meth or pot was made or grown in America ?
 

Red Dawn

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The Dub was doing pretty good (to my surprise) until he fscked up and jumped the Shark by invading and occupying that sh!thiole Iraq.
 

chess9

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Red:

Amen to that.

Then, of course, there was the Medicare Bill, aka The Pharmaceutical Industry Welfare Plan. Uh, and the environmental regs, overtime pay reduction, outing a CIA agent, etc.

I'd say Bush's term has been a disaster. How could it have been much worse?

-Robert
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: chess9
Red:

Amen to that.

Then, of course, there was the Medicare Bill, aka The Pharmaceutical Industry Welfare Plan. Uh, and the environmental regs, overtime pay reduction, outing a CIA agent, etc.

I'd say Bush's term has been a disaster. How could it have been much worse?

-Robert
Well he could have choked to death on that Pretzel enabling Cheney to become President.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: chess9
Red:

Amen to that.

Then, of course, there was the Medicare Bill, aka The Pharmaceutical Industry Welfare Plan. Uh, and the environmental regs, overtime pay reduction, outing a CIA agent, etc.

I'd say Bush's term has been a disaster. How could it have been much worse?

-Robert
Well he could have choked to death on that Pretzel enabling Cheney to become President.

That bad ticker might have taken Cheney out when he leared that he could make his power publically known. That would put Dennis Hastert in the drivers seat.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: chess9
Red:

Amen to that.

Then, of course, there was the Medicare Bill, aka The Pharmaceutical Industry Welfare Plan. Uh, and the environmental regs, overtime pay reduction, outing a CIA agent, etc.

I'd say Bush's term has been a disaster. How could it have been much worse?

-Robert
Well he could have choked to death on that Pretzel enabling Cheney to become President.

That bad ticker might have taken Cheney out when he leared that he could make his power publically known. That would put Dennis Hastert in the drivers seat.
Even worse!
 

kage69

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1. They had a story on the drive to the election and I was pretty impressed with the effort they were making. It was going better then anybody had hoped.


"They" huh? Please. Talk about your apologetic drivel. Many of us, myself included, had hoped this would have gone FAR, FAR better. Imagine what could have been accomplished if chimp hadn't taken away so many resources, particulary special forces and translators. You need to raise your standards.

2. How many were killed in Chicago, Detroit, LA, etc ?


Distractions ahoy! How is domestic violence (which is a constant in ANY US city) comparable to a fundamental regime which harbors the world's most wanted terrorist? Way to answer the question there buddy...

3. How much crack, meth or pot was made or grown in America ?

Here we go again! Can't argue the topic on it's own merits, typical. See, there's a big difference here, in Afghanistan, the opium trade funds the purchase of arms and ammunition, hence why it's so important in settling things down over there. Joe Schmoe growing some dank in his basement cannot be compared to this, as much as you wish it could. Personal/domestic use somehow = international drug trafficking used for the procurement of arms? I don't think so.





Your goon of a president is a complete failure. Wake up. :|
 

arsbanned

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2. How many were killed in Chicago, Detroit, LA, etc ?

3. How much crack, meth or pot was made or grown in America ?

These are valid points and help conjurs argument. Bush has failed just as abysmally on the domestic front as the foreign front.
 

kage69

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Police departments for cities like LA and Detroit aren't federal though, they're run by the states. It wouldn't surprise me if police dept. budgets suffered due to Bush's tax breaks though...
 

arsbanned

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The states are under the federal umbrella and change could certainly be effected by the President to improve conditions. For instance, his no child left behind policy, which happens to be an absolute failure, but you get the picture.
 

kage69

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AIDs is going to gut Africa, and it will turn into the mother of all terrorist havens, just watch...
 

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