Some random questions.... 815mobo, Soldering Pin 1

[highme]

1) I just got a MSI 815e mobo for my Cel2. It will post fine, do the DMI thingamajig fine, but can't find a boot device. I haven't pulled my hd and Cd-rom out to double check the jumper settings on them, but am experiencing something that I hadn't seen before. My Cd-rom if connected to the board will not power up, but if I have the IDE cable unattached, it will power on. Is the ATA66 cable not functional with my ATA33 drive? I haven't had a problem with it in the past. I have been kicking around the idea of selling my Athlon system, (have a wife's friend interested in it, so I could get some good money for it) selling off my Cel2 and getting a P3 and make this my main rig, but without a HD I am not going to be able to get it to work.

2) I have an IDE Zip100 drive that I bought new about a year and a half ago. When I was installing it, the pin 1 broke off. I never RMA'd, didn't think I could, but now I know. But my question is can it be fixed with some quick soldering of the pin back onto the drive. Or should I contact Iomega and get an RMA number and do that dance.

thanks

 

[thorin]

1)
? Are you sure you're putting the red stripe to pin 1 of the IDE connector (both ends)?
? The ata66 cable souldn't cause any problems, but if you have one why not try a normal ATA cable?
? You should check to make sure the master/slave config is right (jumpers), have you scandisk'd?
? Have you made sure that all partitions are active?
? Just before it does the DMI Update/Verify does it list the drive(s)? ? Are you sure the CPU is seated properly?

2)
? Just RMA it.
? If you try to solder the pin (or a pin....did you keep it?) back on you will likely: accidentally solder it to another pin and show it, melt the IDE plastic shroud (sp?), bend or kill another pin, etc...

Thorin

 

[highme]

? Are you sure you're putting the red stripe to pin 1 of the IDE connector (both ends)? yes


? You should check to make sure the master/slave config is right (jumpers), have you scandisk'd? Yeah, my next step is to pull the drives and make sure that they are set up right. I have not scandisked, as I don't have a floppy installed to boot to Dos.
? Have you made sure that all partitions are active? They were when the system had my P2B-f in it.
? Just before it does the DMI Update/Verify does it list the drive(s)? no, and when I enter the BIOS to locate the drives it does not see them.
? Are you sure the CPU is seated properly? Yes, I have even got it to post at 850 or so, but with out a boot device it's kinda pointless.


I figured the best bet for the Zip would be to RMA it, I haven't been using for a year and a half, I suppose I can wait for them to send it to me.

 

[highme]

I forgot the Thank you part.

 

[thorin]

"no, and when I enter the BIOS to locate the drives it does not see them. "

Check the cables & jumpers (switch to another ATA cable, maybe your cable is farked). If they're all right then find a disk you can check the partitions with.

Edit:
Oh and no problem....heh jk 😛

Thorin

 

[highme]

Yeah, I am pretty sure that I need to double check the jumper settings, but I didn't change anything from when I pulled the old mobo. It just sat there waiting for me to put the new one in.

 

[Raincity]

One, you should have checked the jumper settings before even posting a message for help. Two, if the bios doesnt see the ide devices then there is definatly a problem. Three, if the cdrom drive connected to the mainboard ide controller is stoping you from powering up then you really have a problem. Have you checked to see if any of the ide controllers are dissabled in the bios ? DO you have the boot devices all dissabled in the bios. I would recheck those two things and if they are ok, then you probally got a bad board and would send it back.

Rain

 

[highme]

One, you should have checked the jumper settings before even posting a message for help

Except I was bored at work and figured I would throw out the question to see if something else could be wrong.

Three, if the cdrom drive connected to the mainboard ide controller is stoping you from powering up then you really have a problem

It's not stopping the machine from powering up, when the CD is connected to the IDE controller, it doesn't seem to get any power. When it's not connected, the lights blink and the door will open.


Also, feel free to skip the question and not post if you don't feel like it, no need to go chastising people for asking a question.

 

[Raincity]

For one I am not chastising you for asking a question, though I question your trouble shooting skills for even posting for help on a issue without even checking the simple things first that could be the cause of the problem. It pretty much sounds to me that your mainboard has faulty ide controllers or there is a short somewhere in the pcb affecting the ide controllers. Having the ide cable plugged in between the mainboard and cdrom, possibly if there is pcb grounding problem could cause the cdrom drive from not powering up and leaving other devices still functional.I do apoligize if i was to harsh in my last post but continually to see others who dont check the basics before asking for help.

Rain

 

[highme]

My main reason for the question was point 2, but I figured that I would ask the mobo question as well.

<edit>
I do apoligize if i was to harsh in my last post but continually to see others who dont check the basics before asking for help.

Then don't reply, I am aware that I needed to check the jumpers, and even said so, but I left the drives and cables in the case while I waited for the new mobo, and since they worked fine before, I didn't really think that they would be the problem. I was just looking for a little brainstorming if that wasn't the case.