some people are here are making it very hard to stick around...

[maziwanka]

i dont even venture into those threads. they don't interest me at all. do the same shit

 

[Train]

If the religious had this attitude towards nonbelievers for the past 2000 years there wouldn't be any anti-religious sentiment. The problem is that religion is everywhere and pervades our government, moral code and many other tenets of daily life. God is on our money, he's there when we sneeze, even in bed someones always calling his name.

But the religoius CAN'T ignore nonbelievers because prosthelytizing (ain't got sp checker on this biatch) is required by most faiths. i.e. religious people are ordered not to ignore people of other faiths but to actively recruit from them. It's the reason why there are so many christians in the first place, conquer and convert.

So it's all well and good for christians in the modern world to ask for civility and respectful disagreement after raping the world for 2000 years, but pardon the rest of us if we haven't quite forgiven and forgotten it all just yet. But give us some time.

You had to make some pretty big leaps of faith there.

What percentage of religious do you think are actively proselytizing? Outside of maybe Jehovas Witnesses, it's almost unheard of. What, did the whole 2 times in your life some born again tried to hand you a pamphlet at a gas station scar you for life? Was it that invasive? I bet you've been handed useless pamphlets/flyers/whatever of a non-religious nature 100 times more.

You hear "God bless you" when someone sneezes? Oh shit! they are shoving religion down your throat! quick, be a victim! (FYI, some religions/religious purposely DO NOT say god bless after a sneeze because of its superstitious origins)

 

[AstroManLuca]

If the religious had this attitude towards nonbelievers for the past 2000 years there wouldn't be any anti-religious sentiment. The problem is that religion is everywhere and pervades our government, moral code and many other tenets of daily life. God is on our money, he's there when we sneeze, even in bed someones always calling his name.

But the religoius CAN'T ignore nonbelievers because prosthelytizing (ain't got sp checker on this biatch) is required by most faiths. i.e. religious people are ordered not to ignore people of other faiths but to actively recruit from them. It's the reason why there are so many christians in the first place, conquer and convert.

So it's all well and good for christians in the modern world to ask for civility and respectful disagreement after raping the world for 2000 years, but pardon the rest of us if we haven't quite forgiven and forgotten it all just yet. But give us some time.

I recognize that religion has done some awful things over history and continues to do so in the world. But I'm not going to demonize religious people because of what other religious people have done. Just as I don't want religious people to demonize me for being an atheist.

Does it really help anyone to consider organized religion "the enemy"? Again, live and let live. I'll handle situations like a religious person pushing their views on me as they come up - and if they don't come up, then there's no point in getting all worked up about it.

 

[Vette73]

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

I haven't read the whole thread so I don't know if it's been mentioned before, but I'm sorry to say you do not have as thick of skin as you think you do.

 

[sao123]

If the religious had this attitude towards nonbelievers for the past 2000 years there wouldn't be any anti-religious sentiment. The problem is that religion is everywhere and pervades our government, moral code and many other tenets of daily life. God is on our money, he's there when we sneeze, even in bed someones always calling his name.

But the religoius CAN'T ignore nonbelievers because prosthelytizing (ain't got sp checker on this biatch) is required by most faiths. i.e. religious people are ordered not to ignore people of other faiths but to actively recruit from them. It's the reason why there are so many christians in the first place, conquer and convert.

So it's all well and good for christians in the modern world to ask for civility and respectful disagreement after raping the world for 2000 years, but pardon the rest of us if we haven't quite forgiven and forgotten it all just yet. But give us some time.

so what you are saying is that, its tolerant and not infringing on others rights for an aetheist to never want to be exposed to something religious (in our laws, money, etc), but the moment the religious dont want to be exposed to something anti-religious (porno shop, abortion clinic) then all of a sudden its infringing on someones rights and very intolerant?

intolerance of the intolerant - like i said-> bunch of self righteous asshats.

 

[Zee]

 

[Beev]

herp

 

[Kadarin]

You have modern medicine, television, the internet, cars, airplanes, and so forth today not because of religion, God, spirituality, shamanism, nor any other such nonsense, but instead because the scientific method produces tangible results.

 

[Krazy4Real]

I hate this place. At least the OT section.

I like this place. Especially the OT section.

 

[jonks]

You hear "God bless you" when someone sneezes? Oh shit! they are shoving religion down your throat! quick, be a victim! (FYI, some religions/religious purposely DO NOT say god bless after a sneeze because of its superstitious origins)

Probably belongs in the 'why bash christians' thread, but No Sense of Humor.

 

[jonks]

so what you are saying is that, its tolerant and not infringing on others rights for an aetheist to never want to be exposed to something religious (in our laws)

um, the Constitution says this, not just atheists.

 

[jonks]

I recognize that religion has done some awful things over history and continues to do so in the world. But I'm not going to demonize religious people because of what other religious people have done. Just as I don't want religious people to demonize me for being an atheist.

Does it really help anyone to consider organized religion "the enemy"? Again, live and let live. I'll handle situations like a religious person pushing their views on me as they come up - and if they don't come up, then there's no point in getting all worked up about it.

Well I was more explaining why atheists are sort of reveling a bit recently in their newfound powers as opposed to endorsing obnoxious behavior, which needs no endorsement

And I may be a "raging atheist" but I can count on one hand the number of arguments I've had in person with people about religion. When the JW's come knocking on the door I politely turn them away, and when I walk past the EndofTimes folks every single day walking through Grand Central I just ignore them.

Did once get into a fight with a gf though. She didn't like her beliefs questioned. That went kaput quick, hehe.

 

[dainthomas]

thanks for proving my point

Is your life that bad that this is how you pass your time?

When you leave, can I have three thousand of your posts so I can be a lifer?

 

[sao123]

um, the Constitution says this, not just atheists.

you best get your eyes checked...

the constitution says Freedoms OF Religion, not Freedom FROM Religion.

 

[OCGuy]

Jesus isnt real

 

[BoomerD]

Jesus isnt real

Sure he is...He and his brother Jose mow lawns in my neighborhood.

 

[kitchiku]

Just don't go to religion threads, its what I do. Once you've read one thread, the content is pretty much the same with the others. talk about beating a dead horse.

 

[GundamW]

I've got pretty thick skin when it comes to myself. Flame me all you want, I've probably heard it before. But all the hate that goes on around here is just getting out of control.

And now this place is getting flooded with anti-religion posts. I mean there is normally one or two going on but now its all the time. I'm very spiritual but I also realize that not everyone shares my views. That's fine. But why insult things that are Holy to us that are spiritual? Does it somehow make you feel better about yourself? What exactly do you get out of it?

While I do like it here, I don't like being insulted every time I log in.

Well, Welcome to the life of how every non-religious people feel in the US/World.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

You have modern medicine, television, the internet, cars, airplanes, and so forth today not because of religion, God, spirituality, shamanism, nor any other such nonsense, but instead because the scientific method produces tangible results.

Not to mention war, bureaucracy and, Apple. Oh, wait...

 

[Chaotic42]

It's been the same ever since I joined 10 years ago.

Yep. The forums are a little less interesting, but the "feel" is about like I remember it being when I joined. I also find this thread especially interesting given our recent discussion about how stupid all southerners are.

People are going to say what they want. If you have really analyzed your beliefs and are convicted, then don't let what they say bother you. If it's hitting too close to home, maybe you need to do some reflection.

 

[Lifted]

We don't have a problem with religion, just Christians. No other religion has such disregard for other peoples beliefs that it encourages members to preach to people of different faiths (or no faith).

If you promise to get Christians of all denominations to stop preaching about how great Jebus is to those of us who don't care, we won't have to discuss how annoying you all are. Win-Win. :thumbsup:

Now, is amending the bible as much of a PITA as amending the Constitution?

 

[Ichinisan]

It'll get so much worse if you leave, rudeguy.

Seriously, ATOT. You're too rude for a guy who calls himself "rudeguy."

Be ashamed.

 

[Ichinisan]

We don't have a problem with religion, just Christians. No other religion has such disregard for other peoples beliefs that it encourages members to preach to people of different faiths (or no faith).

If you promise to get Christians of all denominations to stop preaching about how great Jebus is to those of us who don't care, we won't have to discuss how annoying you all are. Win-Win. :thumbsup:

If you're supposed to care about people and you believe that your religion is the only way to God, then I guess it's commendable that Christians are trying to save souls.

 

[Lifted]

If you're supposed to care about people and you believe that your religion is the only way to God, then I guess it's commendable that Christians are trying to save souls.

That right there is the problem, bro.