some new BOINC info?

[kamper]

Does anyone here run the BOINC betas? I found this thread in which xn seems to know a fair bit about when BOINC will be coming out. If what he says is all true it seems like we've only got a month or two.

 

[kamper]

bump, anyone?

 

[Unforgiven]

not trying to take a heaping dump on your thread but ive been hearing this since last summer and i dont think they are ANY closer today than they were 3-5 months ago on this software. until they can figure out how to make it run with some stability it will all be just hogwash and empty promises, just as the past 8-9 months has been regarding BOINC!

 

[amdxborg]

Very interesting link you've got there kamper...Thanx

 

[kamper]

Originally posted by: Unforgiven
not trying to take a heaping dump on your thread but ive been hearing this since last summer and i dont think they are ANY closer today than they were 3-5 months ago on this software. until they can figure out how to make it run with some stability it will all be just hogwash and empty promises, just as the past 8-9 months has been regarding BOINC!

Dump away if I'm wrong. It's just that I hadn't heard of anyone running the betas and I thought this guy might know better than others we've heard from.

 

[ericlp]

I find it very interesting how everyone thinks Seti1 is coming to an end. I think they are getting more WU's now so why cap a good thing?

I almost didn't think I was going to make 5K let alone 10K, but after I do reach my goal I am switching to a new project as I believe this will be going on till next year sometime. Of course I'll leave a few rigs running seti since why stop a good thing?



My 2 cents worth.

 

[amdxborg]

Hey ericlp...same here... 5k was my main goal...but I was hoping for 10k...knew it not be easy getting there before the end...Yeah right...going to hit 20k somewhere this week...lol

 

[Rattledagger]

Well, there's no real dates yet, so 17. May is just a guess since this is the same as seti@home's 5-year-anniversary from official launch.

The resent inclusion of stackwalker have made the debugging much easier. The alpha-team does "burn-in" tests of clients & helps filtering out noise from the beta-board and report the real problems back to developers.
In the beta it's a 2-week-delay from client-release to actually enough has switched to know if a bug is fixed or not...
The last couple of months the error-rate has decreased from 17% to 10%, so it's progressing in the right direction.
The next beta-release should be Friday or Saturday if no serious bugs pops up in the current alpha-testing, and will contain debug-code. Depending on the error-rate, maybe the debugging can be turned off for the release after that...


Any wu not crunched in seti@home can be crunched by BOINC, so there's nothing lost by terminating the current seti@home-clients then BOINC is stable enough for release.

 

[Spacehead]

As far as i know Rattledagger is the only one running the BOINC beta, but i see he's already posted an update.

Here's the link to the AstroPulse forums, which will update you on the BOINC releases.
AP Forums

 

[MechxWarrior]

Ummm BOINC? That sound you make when jumping?

Really enlighten myself please

 

[ericlp]

AMDxBORG, Congrats on the 20K!

Good Job!

 

[Xemus]

Originally posted by: MechxWarrior
Ummm BOINC? That sound you make when jumping?

Really enlighten myself please

BOINC = SETI 2
Check here for more details.
BOINC

 

[Confused]

Nooooo!

BOINC != Seti 2


BOINC is a "wrapper" for DC projects. Allowing you to run/control/overlook multiple DC projects, to be able to cache WUs, and say "project x gets 70% cpu time and projet b gets 30% cpu time".

While Seti2 (or whatever it will be called) is going to probably be the "launch" project for BOINC, BOINC does not necessarily mean Seti2


Garry

 

[Rattledagger]

Whatever it will be called, at launch BOINC will crunch the same type of Arecibo-wu that seti@home has crunched for 5 years now. Since in the beta they're distributing wu from the same tapes they're handing out wu to seti@home, it's also easy to see if the beta-client crunches correct or not.

As for multi-project-support, currently it's only the alpha-team that's testing this.

 

[Unforgiven]

thats not entirely accurate is it? i was under the understanding that the whole reason for the creation of SETI II on the BOINC platform is so that larger regions of space could be analyzed?!? is that not accurate? i heard over the past 6 months that SETI II will not only be pulling data from the arecibo telescope but from another station in australia in order to analyze more area in the sky....correct me if im wrong because thats what my understanding has been all along.

 

[BlackMountainCow]

I ran BOINC for a couple of weeks along with Astropulse, but I hardly ever managed to upload a WU correctly. You got to imagine, in the very begining, the whole beta test was kind down for a week or two, cause their harddrive was too small to store all the returned WUs

I don't think that BOINC is anywhere near releasing yet (it's just not good enough yet)
I don't think that it'll be within some months either
I guess SETI I will go on for quite a while

[rant] IMHO this kinda sux. I mean, they told us in two months, next month, blablablbal ... but never kept any of their announcments. To me this is a very bad habit. [/rant]

 

[dxkj]

Well, if it doesnt come for a while that still gives us a chance to gain another place

 

[Idlorj]

ClimatePrediction.net is planning to move to the BOINC system later this year. So a second non-SETI related project will exist for users.

The project leaders think the BOINC version of the software will be ready in two or three months.

 

[kamper]

I read somewhere that F@H was going BOINC too; and that G@H didn't have enought support to follow so it was going to shut down. Don't remember where I read this, anyone can confirm?

 

[Spacehead]

Originally posted by: Unforgiven
thats not entirely accurate is it? i was under the understanding that the whole reason for the creation of SETI II on the BOINC platform is so that larger regions of space could be analyzed?!? is that not accurate? i heard over the past 6 months that SETI II will not only be pulling data from the arecibo telescope but from another station in australia in order to analyze more area in the sky....correct me if im wrong because thats what my understanding has been all along.

I don't think it was the whole reason, but one of the reasons for changing to a new client was so SETI could process data from other telescopes other than Aricebo. Here's a short desciption of BOINC & the new SETI client.
Link


I have also heard that F@H & Climate Prediction are looking to move to the BOINC platform, but i guess that remains to be seen.
AstroPulse will also be one of the 1st projects to use the BOINC platform. It not the same as SETI but it will use the same SETI data to look for micro-pulsars.

 

[Rattledagger]

Remember, there should later be atleast 3 different types of seti-wu:
1; 2-bit-Arecibo-wu. The same type seti@home is using, and this is the only kind I've seen in the BOINC-beta.
2; 8-bit-Arecibo, the most sensitive part of the data recorded last year during the reobservation-period.
3; Parkes in Australia.
There should most likely also be a new multi-beam-receiver at Arecibo installed soon, so then this goes on-line even more data to crunch.

So from my understanding BOINC will on launch only have the 2-bit-seti-wu, and maybe Astropulse...

CPDN is currently porting to BOINC, and should most likely have a beta-version in a couple of months...
Folding@home will probably also release a BOINC-client, but atleast initially just as a supplement to the other clients. No idea of time-line here... And genome@home has already stopped distributing new work.