Some Much Better GeForce 4 Details! :)

[AGodspeed]

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/story.html?id=1011575285

First of all, we have to mention Lightspeed Memory Architecture II, the technology aimed at unloading the memory bus. It includes loss-free Z-buffer compression with 4:1 ratio, 2nd generation Occlusion Culling and Quadcache Architecture, which saves even more memory bandwidth.

Thanks to another significant performance and memory bus efficiency increase, NVIDIA managed to implement a new more progressive anti-aliasing method in its NV25. It is called Accuview AA. This method will use new subpixel locations mask and feature NVIDIA?s patented and optimized for the best performance and quality algorithm.

This, hopefully, will makes games look better.

As for the T&L unit, it has been changed significantly compared with that of GeForce3. Now it is called nFinite FX II and features 2 vertex shader pipelines. Higher clock frequency will triple the performance in those applications, which use the second computing pipeline, making it three times as fast as that of GeForce3. Moreover, increasing the chip frequency will speed up the operations with pixel shaders by 50%.

Working @ a 300MHz core clock with a 2nd vertex shader to boot. Me likey.

The performance solutions from NVIDIA have now also got dual-monitor support. NV25 will boast nView technology, the next stage in the TwinView evolution. It will have richer features and will be much easier to use.

Finally!

 

[XBoxLPU]

i will stick with my Geforce 3

 

[ST4RCUTTER]

i will stick with my Geforce 3

I'm with you man. Me wants the GF4, but I can still play everything just fine with this GF3 Ti200. It's good to see Nvidia keeping a fast pace though. Life for ATI isn't going to get any easier.

 

[mikebb]

Yeah, more new hardware with no software to take advantage of it. What, just 'cause it'll do 1000fps with a Q3 engine game, I'm gonna buy it?

 

[AGodspeed]

<< Yeah, more new hardware with no software to take advantage of it. What, just 'cause it'll do 1000fps with a Q3 engine game, I'm gonna buy it? >>



Well if you could do 1000fps in Q3A, then you'd be able to turn on 64-tap AA @ 1600x1200 without ANY slowdown.

I'd say that's a definite improvement!

 

[rickn]

to bad the game developers don't pump out the game as fast as nvidia pumps out the hardware. NV needs to start their own game studio, and pump out games every 6 months to take advantage of their hardware

 

[ToBeMe]

I may have missed a previous thread, but, any mention of price yet or will it be the nominal nVidia new card price????? With most everything else going up, the only thing to keep them in check would be a super ATI release about the same time...............

 

[nortexoid]

wonder if they're using any 3dfx technology in this up coming chipset??

(boo to nvidia!)

 

[Rand]

<< wonder if they're using any 3dfx technology in this up coming chipset??
>>



Not until NV30.

 

[XBoxLPU]

Isn't the Xbox based on the Geforce 4 ?

Because if it is than i have a GF4 and a GF3 setting by each other..

 

[AGodspeed]

Isn't the Xbox based on the Geforce 4 ?

Yes. But the GeF4 that's coming out soon is a more beefed up version of the GeForce4 in the XBox (called NV2A).

 

[XBoxLPU]

Well the Xbox does not need all of that beef.

Running at 640X480.

The GF4 needs to have a lot of beef to run at 1600X1200 and 4aa

 

[JackBurton]

I will take a GF4 to upgrade from my aging GF2 Pro. I was going to get a GF3 TI500 but the GF4 looks close enough that I could wait.

 

[jeffrey]

What in the world happened to the SIX rendering pipelines????

 

[novon]

all I can say is wow

 

[AGodspeed]

<< I will take a GF4 to upgrade from my aging GF2 Pro. I was going to get a GF3 TI500 but the GF4 looks close enough that I could wait. >>



I agree. I'm going to sell my GeForce 3 in a week or two. By then, the GeForce 4 will almost be released while I'll have still gotten a good high sale on my GeForce3. Hopefully $225-275 will do.

 

[Zeeliv]

Bah, upgrading from your "aging GF2 Pro" or your GF3. I'm still running a GeForce 256 SDR! I'm hoping there's a great price/performance card like the GF3 TI 200 in the GF4 line and then I'll upgrade.

 

[spamsk8r]

you think thats bad, my little brother is running a voodoo banshee lol...and AGodspeed, I doubt you can get $275 for an original geforce3, maybe $225 but I doubt it

 

[venk]

another potential GF2GTS --> G4 user

 

[Cygni]

<< Yes. But the GeF4 that's coming out soon is a more beefed up version of the GeForce4 in the XBox (called NV2A). >>



Be careful there. Most sites have pegged the X-Boxes video controller to that of an nForce with MAYBE a few additional tweaks (placing it in between Geforce2 and 3 with a few new things).

Dont get cought up in the naming game... Geforce4 will be a GIGANTIC change from the X-box controller in almost every way.

 

[HouRman]

I remember just yesterday I paid $300 for my Creative Annihilator Pro Geforce.

I was the only one on my block that could smoothly play Quake III on High quality settings. I'm actualy pretty happy with the original geforce so I'll probably give it another year or two.

btw, I've got a Pentium3 600E at 840mhz on an Asus P3V4X.

 

[AGodspeed]

Be careful there. Most sites have pegged the X-Boxes video controller to that of an nForce with MAYBE a few additional tweaks (placing it in between Geforce2 and 3 with a few new things).

The GeForce3 (Ti 500 included) that's selling right now is, well, inferior to the NV2A GPU inside of the XBox. The Ti500 and the NV2A are exactly the same thing with a few modifications. The NV2A has a 2nd vertex shader, Ti500 does not. Both operate at the same core frequency (actually, the NV2A operates @ 233MHz, the Ti500 @ 240MHz, but nothing to get excited about). NV2A obviously has some special software level modifications that make it better suited for the games it's intended to play (Halo, etc.).

Overall, the NV2A is superior, but the GeForce4 (high-end version) that's coming out will very likely oust NV2A very nicely.

 

[Sid03]

so, what's a gf4 going to do for me that a gf3 cannot... basically the same thing my gf3 can do that a gf2 cannot... NOT MUCH.

sure, you can play at higher res. big deal. games still basically look the same.

hardware is still about 2-3 generations ahead of the software.

so, forgive me if i seem less than excited to spend another $350 and get exactly nothing from it. i spent $300 on my ps2, and games not only look better, but the majority are more fun.

 

[SinNisTeR]

the day i upgrade from my GF2gts is the day that it cant play a game that im not satisfied with..

 

[ElFenix]

i still have yet to play a game that my GF 256 can't play. granted, camelot is slow, which is why i've got my ti 200... but big frickin' deal. we've got people still buying GTS and SLOWER as new cards, damn near 2 years after the GTS was released. has anything explicitly used the programmable T&L of the GF3 yet? which is 9 months old?

yet another nvidia card that will cost $500 when it comes out because there is NO demand for it so nvidia makes very few chips.