Some more taunting

[jackschmittusa]

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"I believe that it is a statement supporting the word of God and that it (the Bible) is above all and that any other religious book that does not teach Christ as savior and lord as the 66 books of the Bible teaches it, is wrong," said the Rev. Creighton Lovelace of Danieltown Baptist Church. "I knew that whenever we decided to put that sign up that there would be people who wouldn't agree with it, and there would be some that would, and so we just have to stand up for what's right."

More intolorance by guess who?

I guess some people don't think there is any benefit in getting along with others of differing ideas.

I do not see this as the road to peace and harmony among men.

 

[Red Dawn]

Those whacky Fundies:roll:

 

[Genx87]

You are right, all Christians are the same. Surprised all 200+ million of them werent lined up behind this idiot.

 

[conjur]

Aren't there more than 66 books, though? I guess he used the convenient version of the Bible. The one propagated by the Church of Rome.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Genx87
You are right, all Christians are the same. Surprised all 200+ million of them werent lined up behind this idiot.

Thank God they're not or they'd be flying planes into buildings too. I bet most decent Christians would be shocked by what this Nut Case said.

 

[jackschmittusa]

Genx87

You are right, all Christians are the same. Surprised all 200+ million of them werent lined up behind this idiot.

Hmmmm...... I don't remember even using a label to identify any group.

Since you appear to think a label will accurately portray their numbers, what label should I use? I have heard similar comments from others who share similar sentiments, so this is not an "army of one".

Who would you say they are?

 

[Genx87]

More intolorance by guess who?

What did this mean?

 

[jackschmittusa]

I suppose it meant fundamentalist/wacko in my personal opinion. But you are one of the ones who do not wish to hear it. So. I ask again, which label do you find more appropriate? There are obviously a large number of like thinkers here in the U.S. and, for convienience, I would like to be able to refer to them as a group.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: jackschmittusa
I suppose it meant fundamentalist/wacko in my personal opinion. But you are one of the ones who do not wish to hear it. So. I ask again, which label do you find more appropriate? There are obviously a large number of like thinkers here in the U.S. and, for convienience, I would like to be able to refer to them as a group.

I dont wish to hear what?

btw nice to see you admit to the stereotyping, that really puts you into perspective.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: Genx87
You are right, all Christians are the same. Surprised all 200+ million of them werent lined up behind this idiot.

Maybe not, but silence often speaks just as loud as words. The problem with radicals like this guy, whatever their religion or belief, is that the mainstream people almost never seem to condem the radicals, at least not in any major way. It is the same all around the world, whether it's something as major as 9/11, or something as minor as some idiot attacking Islam as a religion.

I know that most Christians aren't ok with desecration of others' holy books simply because they disagree with their religion, and individual Christians will probably tell you that they disagree. But is this idiot going to get booted out of his Church by the congregation? Are other church leaders going to speak out against his message? I doubt it.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: Genx87
You are right, all Christians are the same. Surprised all 200+ million of them werent lined up behind this idiot.

Maybe not, but silence often speaks just as loud as words. The problem with radicals like this guy, whatever their religion or belief, is that the mainstream people almost never seem to condem the radicals, at least not in any major way. It is the same all around the world, whether it's something as major as 9/11, or something as minor as some idiot attacking Islam as a religion.

I know that most Christians aren't ok with desecration of others' holy books simply because they disagree with their religion, and individual Christians will probably tell you that they disagree. But is this idiot going to get booted out of his Church by the congregation? Are other church leaders going to speak out against his message? I doubt it.

Maybe because we ASSume most people can look at him as an idiot savant and disregard him? If we had to apologize for every idiot in this world the word "sorry" would be the only word in our vocabulary.

Now if he goes out and beheads a Muslim in the name of God, Ill be the first to speak up.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: Genx87
You are right, all Christians are the same. Surprised all 200+ million of them werent lined up behind this idiot.

Maybe not, but silence often speaks just as loud as words. The problem with radicals like this guy, whatever their religion or belief, is that the mainstream people almost never seem to condem the radicals, at least not in any major way. It is the same all around the world, whether it's something as major as 9/11, or something as minor as some idiot attacking Islam as a religion.

I know that most Christians aren't ok with desecration of others' holy books simply because they disagree with their religion, and individual Christians will probably tell you that they disagree. But is this idiot going to get booted out of his Church by the congregation? Are other church leaders going to speak out against his message? I doubt it.

Maybe because we ASSume most people can look at him as an idiot savant and disregard him? If we had to apologize for every idiot in this world the word "sorry" would be the only word in our vocabulary.

Now if he goes out and beheads a Muslim in the name of God, Ill be the first to speak up.

Fair enough, but I still would think his congregation would do say something. And maybe they have or will, we probably won't find out either way.

My comment was more in general, because you're right, this is a relativly minor thing. Although the guy is supposedly a spiritual leader, not just some random nutbar. But you're right, this isn't a huge deal.

 

[Googer]

Originally posted by: jackschmittusa
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"I believe that it is a statement supporting the word of God and that it (the Bible) is above all and that any other religious book that does not teach Christ as savior and lord as the 66 books of the Bible teaches it, is wrong," said the Rev. Creighton Lovelace of Danieltown Baptist Church. "I knew that whenever we decided to put that sign up that there would be people who wouldn't agree with it, and there would be some that would, and so we just have to stand up for what's right."

More intolorance by guess who?

I guess some people don't think there is any benefit in getting along with others of differing ideas.

I do not see this as the road to peace and harmony among men.

As any die hard/ hard core Alabama Mooselam would say "Dem Bee Fightin' Werds":| :evil:

 

[jackschmittusa]

Genx87

I think you carry the concept of stereotyping to far.

If I said "Soldiers are trained to kill", would that be stereotyping?

How about "Pilots are trained to fly airplanes."?

It is quite common and acceptable to apply a label to a group sharing common characteristics.

I did not say "Christians". I did not even attempt to include all fundamentalists.

I even feel that "wacko" was a reletively kind term compared to what I could have used.

People like the object of the OP are as bad as AQ and Taliban extremists. They foster hate and dissent to bolster the spread of their own beliefs. They are dangerous. They need to be classed into some group whose label denotes that danger. And no. I do not think anyone should be included in said group by mere association, but by their words and deeds alone.

Failure to recognize the danger from people of this stripe means that they will be unopposed in there quest. They are a deterrant to peace and tranquility throughout the world.

 

[judasmachine]

stupid but he has a right to prove publically that he is an idiot.

 

[Codewiz]

Wow, I guess everything here believes in the 1st Amendment right? If you do then you need to support this churches right to have this sign out there.

We have every right to hate the sign and let them know we don't like it. Free Speech applies to things we agree with and more importantly things we disagree with.

 

[jackschmittusa]

Of course they have the right to display their intolerance and stupidity. I would never say that they could not have a sign such as this. We may even be better off knowing who these people are rather than having them practice their ill will in the shadows.

 

[conjur]

Minister Takes Down 'Flush Koran' Sign
N.C. Baptist Pastor Issues Apology
http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/4540333/detail.html?rss=dgo&psp=nationalnews

"Now I realize how offensive this is to them, and after praying about it, I have chosen to remove the sign. I apologize for posting that message and deeply regret that it has offended so many in the Muslim community. I remain committed to proclaiming the Gospel of Jesus Christ and renew my commitment to proclaiming that message in the true spirit of Christ's love."

:roll:


What a dumbass.