Some more info on the 38xx series.

[Keysplayr]

This is what will sell as Radeon HD 3850:

* 55nm RV670PRO GPU at 668 MHz (why not 666?)
* 256MB GDDR3 memory at 828 MHz DDR (1.66 GT(/s)
* 10.69 GPixel/s fillrate
* 52.99 GB/s memory bandwidth
* 320 Unified Stream Processors
* 24x Custom Filter Anti-Aliasing support
* ATI Avivo HD
* ATI PowerPlay power saving technology
* Game Physics processing capability (this belongs to fairy tale land, but you know ? marketing...)
* HDMI support
*should retail for between $149 to 179 (USD)

As far as higher performing part, the 3870 is considered, specs are following:

* 55nm RV670XT GPU clocked to 775 MHz
* 512MB GDDR4 memory clocked at 1.2 GHz DDR (2.4 GT/s)
* 12.40 GPixel/s fill-rate
* 76.80 GB/s memory bandwidth
* 320 Unified Stream Processors
* 24x Custom Filter Anti-Aliasing support
* 55nm process
* ATI Avivo HD
* ATI PowerPlay power saving technology
* Game Physics processing capability
* HDMI support
*should retail for between $200 to 230 (USD)

These will go on sale on November 19th or a little bit earlier.

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I think it probably would be sabotage at this point. Lowering clocks after the jump to 55nm does not sound right, unless there were heavy thermal problems. Where is Nancy Drew when you need her? :::sigh:::

 

[yacoub]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
This is what will sell as Radeon HD 3850:

* 55nm RV670PRO GPU at 668 MHz (why not 666?)

Because of rounding it's always been 667 for clockspeeds. The bigger question is why 668 when it's usually 667. lol

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: yacoub

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
This is what will sell as Radeon HD 3850:

* 55nm RV670PRO GPU at 668 MHz (why not 666?)

Because of rounding it's always been 667 for clockspeeds. The bigger question is why 668 when it's usually 667. lol

I don't think they (INQ) realize that it only applies to CPU/FSB multiplier ratios. When the Pentium III 667 came out, it was really supposed to be 666 and some change because of the 133x5 multiplier. This has zero to do with video card clocks that can be increased/decreased in single MHz increments. But besides all that, i don't think anyone wants the numbers 666 on their products if they can avoid it. LOL.

 

[hclarkjr]

i was going to get a 2900xt with 1gb memory but looking at these prices i think i will get one of the 3870 when it hits newegg 🙂

 

[BFG10K]

This has zero to do with video card clocks that can be increased/decreased in single MHz increments.

Last time I checked those clocks also work around a base clock and can only be adjusted in multiples thereof.

If your tweaker is allowing 1 MHz increments the card will actually be going to the closest multiple of the base clock.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: BFG10K

This has zero to do with video card clocks that can be increased/decreased in single MHz increments.

Last time I checked those clocks also work around a base clock and can only be adjusted in multiples thereof.

If your tweaker is allowing 1 MHz increments the card will actually be going to the closest multiple of the base clock.

We learn something new every day. Thanks BFG.

 

[AzN]

$150 sounds like a deal breaker to me for a midrange card even though it's 256mb part. AMD is going to sell a lot of video cards in this price bracket if they can deliver unlike Nvidia's $300 price tags.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: Azn
$150 sounds like a deal breaker to me for a midrange card even though it's 256mb part. AMD is going to sell a lot of video cards in this price bracket if they can deliver unlike Nvidia's $300 price tags.

Hehe, you make it sound as if the 300.00 GT's aren't selling. They can hardly keep them in stock. So who wins?

 

[apoppin]

How about you guys preordering it? 😛

you can in the netherlands:

http://www.salland.eu/?redirec...ductinfo.php?pid=41231

Chipset ATi Radeon HD3850
Geheugen 256 MB
Type geheugen DDR3
GPU snelheid 668 MHz
Geheugen snelheid 1656 MHz
Interface PCI-e 16x
RAMDAC 400 MHz
TV-out Ja
Video-in Nee
DVI 2 x
D-sub Nee

199 Euros

 

[thilanliyan]

Hopefully there will be good stock of the XT version.

 

[Denithor]

Any word on when the 8800gt-256 is due for release into the wild? That would be the obvious answer to the 3850 in the same price range, if it's released in the $150-180 range mentioned in the AT article.

I can't wait to see some comparative benchies at reputable sites later this month. I just got a $130 credit back from newegg for an x1900gt that died on me two weeks ago (go egg!!) and I'm stuck using a 7600gt until I figure out the best card for the money.

 

[bryanW1995]

Originally posted by: BFG10K

This has zero to do with video card clocks that can be increased/decreased in single MHz increments.

Last time I checked those clocks also work around a base clock and can only be adjusted in multiples thereof.

If your tweaker is allowing 1 MHz increments the card will actually be going to the closest multiple of the base clock.

yeah, when I oc my x1950xt it is multiples of 6. 668,662, etc

 

[bryanW1995]

Originally posted by: Denithor
Any word on when the 8800gt-256 is due for release into the wild? That would be the obvious answer to the 3850 in the same price range, if it's released in the $150-180 range mentioned in the AT article.

I can't wait to see some comparative benchies at reputable sites later this month. I just got a $130 credit back from newegg for an x1900gt that died on me two weeks ago (go egg!!) and I'm stuck using a 7600gt until I figure out the best card for the money.

here's a plan:

sell 7600gt for $60-$70 on fs/ft. buy 3870 for $200 or wait/hope for 8800gt 512 to get that low. either way you win. You'll almost certainly get better performance from 3870 512mb than 8800gt 256, at least at any resolution that would benefit from a solid midrange card, and obviously 8800gt 512 would be much preferable.

consider this: these forums are littered with people who are pissed off that they bought a 320mb 8800gts 2/3/6/9 months ago b/c they need to upgrade already. on the flip side, 8800gts owners are either standing pat or making money off of their gts with a change to gt. get the extra memory, you'll be happy you did 😛

 

[JBT]

Originally posted by: bryanW1995

Originally posted by: BFG10K

This has zero to do with video card clocks that can be increased/decreased in single MHz increments.

Last time I checked those clocks also work around a base clock and can only be adjusted in multiples thereof.

If your tweaker is allowing 1 MHz increments the card will actually be going to the closest multiple of the base clock.

yeah, when I oc my x1950xt it is multiples of 6. 668,662, etc

ditto, on my old x1900xt.

 

[thegimp03]

Wow, still coming out with AGP cards. That's good.

Pisses me off that I upgraded to a PCI-e board a year ago just because we were being told that there would be no more AGP cards. That was a mistake...

 

[taltamir]

"320 Unified Stream Processors "

HOLY! considering the huge impact shaders have in modern performance, and how the sole reason the GT wins over GTS despite having slower EVERYTHING else but SP...

This leads to some pretty impressive possibilities...
668mhz... so if they have three times the SP at a third of the Hz then what? it seems like it will just be a matter of who is more efficient about their design then...
nvidia though can save costs on production by having less SP they require less silicone per item... so AMD is loosing some of that benefit of having a process 10nm smaller... Combined with it being lower on everything else and the lack of "leaked info" in fact the GT feeding frenzy I am still seeing it being outperfomed by the GT... but with a lower price tag it might be worth it... we will see if the nvidia prices drop...

Anyways as for the "who wins" question.. nvidia didn't price the GT at 300$, it priced it at 200$, sold the chips for probably 100$ a peice, the manufacturers built the cards, and then it was price gouged like crazy AFTER release rizing from 230$ on a stock card to a 290$ for stock card.
the extra profit is now tricking down to the manufacturers who can now sell their new stock for more to the stores... and by the time it will start trickling down to nvidia the new parts will be out and the pricewar will keep it down...

So the only one who really wins is the stores who did the price gouging in the first week.