Some more Android cheerleading, now runs on 50% of US smartphones sold in March

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Bateluer

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http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...artphones-and-50-of-all-new-smartphones-sold/

* Android now represents 37% of all US smartphones
* 50% of smartphones sold in the month of March were Android phones
* 31% of consumers said their next purchase will be an Android phone, compared to 26% one year ago. Android now leads iOS here as well (iOS accounts for 30%, down from 33%)
* 20% of consumers don’t know which OS their next smartphone will run
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Not too shabby.

Here's the Nielsen complete results.
http://blog.nielsen.com/nielsenwire/?p=27418

If I were RIM, I'd be pretty concerned that only 11% of people planned to buy your product.
 
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Genx87

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I am actually surprised 11% plan to buy a product from RIM. I'd figure RIM is pretty much pushed into the business world. Where they IT staff is reluctant to give up on overpriced BES because they spent so much time building the infrastructure.
 
hanoverphist

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poofyhairguy said:
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i was part of that 20% and it had nothing at all to do with knowing what an OS is. i had a winmo6.1 phone, i really liked the wp7 but hadnt seen enough of it to go through changing service providers, and was waiting to see if vzw would get one to try out. android i liked, but still had a few misgivings for things i couldnt do with them (based on my dealings with fixing the PMs droids here at work). only thing i did know was i didnt want an iphone. since i ran out of time, i ended up with android, and vzw still doesnt have a wp7 phone to get. but up until a week before i got my droidX, i didnt know which OS i was going to go with, and had a very good understanding of both.

yup, pointless rant but im getting sick of the high horse people in this sub forum.
 
Fire&Blood

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Bateluer said:
20% of consumers don’t know which OS their next smartphone will run
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On the XDA forum I saw a guy wanting to install winmo 6.5 on the HD7. I know a few people still waiting for a meego phone, as well as few folks who think RIM is the best OS for years to come. Whether these folks don't know what an OS is or what OS to choose is next is debatable but it's the way things are.
 
mammador

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This market share tabulation makes little sense. As Android is on a multitude of phones, and iOS is only on the iPhone and iPad, then Android already has an advantage. How then is any comparison truly fair? Apple has to contend with Android in addition to the other phone makers.
 
dpodblood

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mammador said:
This market share tabulation makes little sense. As Android is on a multitude of phones, and iOS is only on the iPhone and iPad, then Android already has an advantage. How then is any comparison truly fair? Apple has to contend with Android in addition to the other phone makers.
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Even by being on multiple devices, I don't think that gives Android a huge advantage over iOS. People shopping for a smart phone usually think "Do I want and Iphone, Android Phone, or Blackberry?" Not "do I want an Iphone4, HD2, HD7, Desire HD, Blackberry Curve, Blackberry Bold, Blackberry Pearl, Samsung Galaxy, Nexus S, Atrix, etc." At least that's my experience.
 
mammador

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So then it's not exact or fair competition. It's like asking a local Mom and Pop supermarket to rival Walmart. Technically they can rival it, but not in terms of scope. Yes, people do shop often on platform, but consumer choice is complex. For some, smartphone choice is on preferred carrier, or preferred manufacturer. Apple has to compete with all other companies that are marketing their own phones. Technically Google doesn't have to spend much on marketing Android, since Samsung, HTC, etc. would market their own products as based on the Google-owned platform.
 
zerocool84

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mammador said:
So then it's not exact or fair competition. It's like asking a local Mom and Pop supermarket to rival Walmart. Technically they can rival it, but not in terms of scope. Yes, people do shop often on platform, but consumer choice is complex. For some, smartphone choice is on preferred carrier, or preferred manufacturer. Apple has to compete with all other companies that are marketing their own phones. Technically Google doesn't have to spend much on marketing Android, since Samsung, HTC, etc. would market their own products as based on the Google-owned platform.
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and? That's all Apple's fault. Plus it's not like they've only ever had just one phone out at a time. They've had multiple sizes, colors, and older models so it's not just one phone. Apple chooses not to open it up and/or make a super cheap phone and in doing so they've lost significant marketshare and will only lose more. You always compare phone platform to phone platform. That's why it's smartphone: iOS vs Android vs Blackberry vs Windows vs WebOS etc not iPhone 4 vs Blackberry Torch vs HTC Evo vs Samsung Focus. You local mom & pop analogy doesn't work because Apple is not a small company in any sense.
 
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Fingolfin269

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Why does everyone assume that Apple's market share relative to Android is some type of problem? Market share isn't everything. If it were then Apple would have altered their strategy long ago.
 
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Fingolfin269 said:
Why does everyone assume that Apple's market share relative to Android is some type of problem? Market share isn't everything. If it were then Apple would have altered their strategy long ago.
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Get real. You don't think market share is Apple's main concern? Market share is the one biggest factor that determines how much money they make. Of course declining market share is a big problem for Apple or any company... any business school dropout knows that.
 
simonizor

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M0RPH said:
Get real. You don't think market share is Apple's main concern? Market share is the one biggest factor that determines how much money they make. Of course declining market share is a big problem for Apple or any company... any business school dropout knows that.
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This may be true for their media devices and phones, but their computers are a completely different story.
 
Fingolfin269

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M0RPH said:
Get real. You don't think market share is Apple's main concern? Market share is the one biggest factor that determines how much money they make. Of course declining market share is a big problem for Apple or any company... any business school dropout knows that.
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No. If you think the main factor is market share then you forgot the primary point of business: Profit. How much does Apple make per end-to-end phone transaction? How much does Google make? If Apple makes changes to increase their pen rate does it result in greater sales at less profit? Will it result in higher cost and/or greater risk of a flaw due to greater device variation? These are all factors you have to consider.
 
mammador

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zerocool84 said:
and? That's all Apple's fault. Plus it's not like they've only ever had just one phone out at a time. They've had multiple sizes, colors, and older models so it's not just one phone. Apple chooses not to open it up and/or make a super cheap phone and in doing so they've lost significant marketshare and will only lose more. You always compare phone platform to phone platform. That's why it's smartphone: iOS vs Android vs Blackberry vs Windows vs WebOS etc not iPhone 4 vs Blackberry Torch vs HTC Evo vs Samsung Focus. You local mom & pop analogy doesn't work because Apple is not a small company in any sense.
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Competition depends on a number of factors. Yes, Apple is not a small firm, but the fact that it has to compete with a number of other firms (which all can to a large degree coast on Android) is key.
 
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M0RPH said:
Get real. You don't think market share is Apple's main concern? Market share is the one biggest factor that determines how much money they make. Of course declining market share is a big problem for Apple or any company... any business school dropout knows that.
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I think it's simple math. Assuming market total is 100, Android manufacturers sold 75 devices at $10 profit per device, Apple sold 25 devices at $40 profit per device, who do you think would be more profitable?
 
Patranus

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Google needs to figure out how to capitalize on its market share.

Giving something away for essentially free runs the risk of having a poor return on investment.
 
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