Some good (6 figure) federal jobs open at my agency (Wash DC)

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sze5003

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Yea that would be useful. I could start looking in that one too since I really don't want to be in DC.
 

dud

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How is your agency able to hire under the current hiring freeze?
 

brianmanahan

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i would take 100$k in the midwest over 150$k in DC

that app dev job sounds sweet though - REST services and web apps with ruby or python? id be all over that. most places in the midwest still use java or c#
 
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purbeast0

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i would take 100$k in the midwest over 150$k in DC

that app dev job sounds sweet though - REST services and web apps with ruby or python? id be all over that. most places in the midwest still use java or c#

groovy is the new ruby son! get with it!

i've been doing web apps the past 2 years and i definitely enjoy web app development more than the other stuff i've done professionally, which is commercial app that is c++, and a java swing app with jboss backend and mysql for a government branch.
 

brianmanahan

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groovy is the new ruby son! get with it!

i've been doing web apps the past 2 years and i definitely enjoy web app development more than the other stuff i've done professionally, which is commercial app that is c++, and a java swing app with jboss backend and mysql for a government branch.

dude i love groovy! grails is my go-to framework now for personal webapps, but i cant get the OK to use it for that at work. stupid ancient struts apps :(

we are switching to gradle for builds though, so at least there's that...
 

Mai72

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QTF ! ... Seriously though, my mother used to be a mail carrier and the benefits are awesome, the pays wasn't shabby either.
My brother makes $28 an hour as a letter carrier. Full benefits with a 401k that is matched.
 

Fox5

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I have always had a hard time getting interviews for gov jobs, they never seem to even put me on the eligibility list even though all requirements met.

Government jobs get flooded with applicants. You're better off going to a federal job fair to get face to face time and get your name known.
Also, in some jobs, college GPA and highest degree earned matter a lot.

100-145k in DC Metro is like 50k in the rest of the US.

The bennies are okay, the commute will make you want to hang yourself.

Currently competing with the San Francisco and LA areas for most expensive area and worst commute in the US.

These are some pretty high paying government jobs. There's some real federal pay inflation in DC. Understandably so, but it makes the GS schedule look really bad when software development positions at the US treasury are paying as much as $144k. I don't think the GS payscale even goes that high.
 

sze5003

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I've been thinking about learning ruby or grails but if all I have used at work is java or c # and .net at another company I don't think they would take that as experience by learning it on my own.
 

purbeast0

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Government jobs get flooded with applicants. You're better off going to a federal job fair to get face to face time and get your name known.
Also, in some jobs, college GPA and highest degree earned matter a lot.



Currently competing with the San Francisco and LA areas for most expensive area and worst commute in the US.

These are some pretty high paying government jobs. There's some real federal pay inflation in DC. Understandably so, but it makes the GS schedule look really bad when software development positions at the US treasury are paying as much as $144k. I don't think the GS payscale even goes that high.

GS goes higher than that. i was looking at it yesterday and i believe the top was like $155k.

what i think is odder is that the government will contract out work at a significantly higher rate than what the hourly rate of someone making $155k/yr is.
 

SP33Demon

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100-145k in DC Metro is like 50k in the rest of the US.

The bennies are okay, the commute will make you want to hang yourself.

No it's not. There are many ways around the commute, telework and buy a place that will be reverse commute. A federal job that pays 90K and up is the biggest scam in the area, you can find ways to live cheap and just rack up your savings. You can't be fired, and half the time they don't have to work. I've seen employees watching movies for half the day and not get in trouble, people sleeping at their desks, it's ridiculous. Don't even get me started on the vacation time. People talk about no federal raises due to budget blah blah blah but there are ways around that (merit awards, accelerated step promotions). Cry me a river, a fed job here is the biggest scam in the country.
 
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purbeast0

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No it's not. There are many ways around the commute, telework and buy a place that will be reverse commute. A federal job that pays 90K and up is the biggest scam in the area, you can find ways to live cheap and just rack up your savings. You can't be fired, and half the time they don't have to work. I've seen employees watching movies for half the day and not get in trouble, people sleeping at their desks, it's ridiculous.

lol i second this - having worked with govies for a while now, they are some of the laziest people i've ever seen working and goof off more than any other employees i've seen.
 

sze5003

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lol i second this - having worked with govies for a while now, they are some of the laziest people i've ever seen working and goof off more than any other employees i've seen.

Probably why it's so hard to get picked. I wonder what their interviews are like.

You can't get fired at my company either unless you are a contractor or you severely insult someone but it's no government job for sure.
 
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I've been thinking about learning ruby or grails but if all I have used at work is java or c # and .net at another company I don't think they would take that as experience by learning it on my own.
It's not that difficult. I'm actually considering a career change to a software engineer and I've been learning Ruby and Java (With some Android on the side)

With previous coding experiance, Ruby should take about a month to get decent at it, with another month to get Ruby-on-rails proficient. Python should be really fast after that because they might as well be the same thing.

This groovy thing is new to me though. I consider mself at least somewhat knowledgable on the trends of software engineering, but nobody I've talked to have mentioned they used Groovy. It's all Ruby and Python.
 

Jimzz

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the benefits for these government jobs is pretty crazy right? and you get a pension too don't you when you retire?


The good pension was killed over 30years ago. That retirement system was called CSRS. Good pension and you did not pay into SS.

The current retirement system is called FERS+. It has a 5% match in TSP (think Feds 401k version), pay into SS, and a very VERY small pension f you stay long enough and pay enough into it.

I work at DHS and its cheaper for my wife to get insurance at her company than the cheapest one for the Fed Gov.

Benefits are not bad with the Fed Gov but there are private business's that offer better.

So not bad but not as nice as many make it out to be.
 

Jimzz

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No it's not. There are many ways around the commute, telework and buy a place that will be reverse commute. A federal job that pays 90K and up is the biggest scam in the area, you can find ways to live cheap and just rack up your savings. You can't be fired, and half the time they don't have to work. I've seen employees watching movies for half the day and not get in trouble, people sleeping at their desks, it's ridiculous. Don't even get me started on the vacation time. People talk about no federal raises due to budget blah blah blah but there are ways around that (merit awards, accelerated step promotions). Cry me a river, a fed job here is the biggest scam in the country.


Hahahhaaa... tell that to several people we let go in the last year at my current office and quite a few at my previous one.

So where do you work?