Some clichés are true!

[Viper1j]

Patriot Front Man's Mom Throws Him Out Of Her Basement 'Pack Your Bags'

An individual in Utah happened to notice something quite unusual, 31 Patriot Front White nationalists boarding a U-Haul. The “little army” included Jared Michael Boyce, 27, and others all geared up to fight with “riot gear and smoke grenades,” some with guns. But one of the ultra-right group’s...

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Patriot Front Man’s Mom Throws Him Out Of Her Basement ‘Pack Your Bags’

An individual in Utah happened to notice something quite unusual, 31 Patriot Front White nationalists boarding a U-Haul. The “little army” included Jared Michael Boyce, 27, and others all geared up to fight with “riot gear and smoke grenades,” some with guns. But one of the ultra-right group’s members, which was headed to destroy an annual LGBTQ+ pride event, was in big trouble. Boyce’s mother was furious.



Karen Amsden defended her son, saying his problems began when his father abandoned the family and came out as gay. Her goal in coming out publicly was to embarrass her son enough so that his link to the Patriot Front would be pulled apart, according to The Towleroad.

The dozens of Patriot Front members, including her son, were arrested on misdemeanor charges. However, they were out on bail as of Monday morning after they appeared in court.

She told The Daily Beast what she offered her son:

‘”WELL, THEN YOU CAN’T LIVE HERE. YOU CAN CHOOSE BETWEEN PATRIOT FRONT AND YOUR FAMILY.” AND HE’S LIKE, “WELL, I CAN’T QUIT.” I’M LIKE, “WELL, THEN YOU’VE JUST CHOSEN. SO PACK YOUR STUFF AND GET OUT OF MY HOUSE.”‘

The Coeur d’Alene Police Department released a statement that read, The LGBQ Nation reported:

‘OFFICERS BELIEVED IT LIKELY THE INTENT OF THESE INDIVIDUALS WAS TO INCITE PHYSICAL CONFRONTATION AND CAUSE DISORDER. ALL 31 WERE ARRESTED FOR CONSPIRACY TO RIOT.’

Boyce’s Twitter bio said he was an “Alpha Chad” and “Patriot through and fucking through.” He even named his account “@PedosnJooshang (pedos and Jews hang).”

His mother continued, saying that her son lied to her claiming he was going camping:

‘I WOULD LOVE TO DO WHATEVER I CAN TO OUT HIM [AS A PATRIOT FRONT MEMBER] SO THAT HE CAN’T BE A PART OF IT (INCLUDING GOING TO THE MEDIA). AND THAT THEY DON’T WANT HIM TO BE A PART OF THEIR GROUP BECAUSE HIS MOM HAS LOOSE LIPS AND A BIG MOUTH AND HE’S NEVER GOING TO GET AWAY WITH ANYTHING.’

‘AND I SAW THIS NEWS STORY COME UP THAT SAID 31 MEMBERS OF A WHITE SUPREMACIST GROUP WERE ARRESTED AT A RALLY, AND I JUST KNEW – I KNEW HE WAS PART OF IT. HE’S SO MISGUIDED AND BOUGHT INTO ALL THEIR RHETORIC. IT JUST MAKES ME SICK. THIS IS NOT WHO I RAISED. THIS IS NOT THE EXAMPLE THAT WAS SET FOR HIM.’

Boyce told her:

‘DON’T BELIEVE THE MEDIA, MOM. WE WERE JUST THERE BECAUSE THEY’RE GROOMING KIDS.’

He believed one of the conspiracy theories put out by Republicans to condemn those in the LGBTQ+ community. They included “Representatives Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA), Lauren Boebert (R-CO), and Florida Governor Ron DeSantis (R).”

 

[Moonbeam]

There's more than one way to abandon your family.

 

[Viper1j]

There's more than one way to abandon your family.

I've told more than one person to "move out of your mom's basement", I just never really expected it to be their real residence.

 

[iRONic]

Mother of the year!!

 

[Moonbeam]

I've told more than one person to "move out of your mom's basement", I just never really expected it to be their real residence.

But the mental picture the cliche creates corresponds to a reality we have all learned so well to not be that uncommon in modern America, the presence on so many purposeless, lost, and useless young men. Jordan Peterson has a lot to say about them and about how to cure their disease.

Anyway, our competitive society is in my opinion the source of such truckloads of lost, pathetic jerks. This one had as a role model a man with the kind of mental problems, I suspect, he could not even recognize he was gay, the result being the abandonment of wife and child, and that child growing up in psychological darkness hating him and gay people for it, the ugliness of that hatred caused him, also! to be rejected by his mother.

America is a place where so many have to grow up in pain because we are motivated not to face, understand, and deal with our emotional ignorance. Instead, we look for something out there to blame.

 

[nakedfrog]

But the mental picture the cliche creates corresponds to a reality we have all learned so well to not be that uncommon in modern America, the presence on so many purposeless, lost, and useless young men. Jordan Peterson has a lot to say about them and about how to cure their disease.

Anyway, our competitive society is in my opinion the source of such truckloads of lost, pathetic jerks. This one had as a role model a man with the kind of mental problems, I suspect, he could not even recognize he was gay, the result being the abandonment of wife and child, and that child growing up in psychological darkness hating him and gay people for it, the ugliness of that hatred caused him, also! to be rejected by his mother.

America is a place where so many have to grow up in pain because we are motivated not to face, understand, and deal with our emotional ignorance. Instead, we look for something out there to blame.

Not sure if sarcasm, Jordan Peterson helps push young men to join groups like the Patriot Front.

 

[Viper1j]

But the mental picture the cliche creates corresponds to a reality we have all learned so well to not be that uncommon in modern America, the presence on so many purposeless, lost, and useless young men. Jordan Peterson has a lot to say about them and about how to cure their disease.

Anyway, our competitive society is in my opinion the source of such truckloads of lost, pathetic jerks. This one had as a role model a man with the kind of mental problems, I suspect, he could not even recognize he was gay, the result being the abandonment of wife and child, and that child growing up in psychological darkness hating him and gay people for it, the ugliness of that hatred caused him, also! to be rejected by his mother.

America is a place where so many have to grow up in pain because we are motivated not to face, understand, and deal with our emotional ignorance. Instead, we look for something out there to blame.

If I didn't know better, I would say that you were preparing opening arguments for his trial when he shoots up the next school.

 

[Moonbeam]

If I didn't know better, I would say that you were preparing opening arguments for his trial when he shoots up the next school.

Then I am thankful you know better. My interest is in truth that would transform society eliminating the need for so many of just that kind of trial.

Not sure if sarcasm, Jordan Peterson helps push young men to join groups like the Patriot Front.

My bet is that you are a victim of knowingness, but just in case you are a person interested in self reflection and challenging the factual nature of what you think you know here is a point of view that may change your certainty about that of which you speak.

People not only imagine they are qualified to judge what truth is but believe they already know it. When I decided the same was true of me, things took an untoward turn. I couldn't prove a single one of my sacred beliefs and discovered that I knew nothing. Since then I have learned that the abandonment of all you thought had to be true makes what actually is true is much easier to see.

Why Jordan Peterson's cultured despisers are wrong - ABC Religion & Ethics

One of the most disappointing features of the debate surrounding Jordan Peterson is that there is no constructive evaluation of his work that would enable us to get a better sense of its actual strengths and weaknesses.

www.abc.net.au

 

[nakedfrog]

Then I am thankful you know better. My interest is in truth that would transform society eliminating the need for so many of just that kind of trial.

My bet is that you are a victim of knowingness, but just in case you are a person interested in self reflection and challenging the factual nature of what you think you know here is a point of view that may change your certainty about that of which you speak.

People not only imagine they are qualified to judge what truth is but believe they already know it. When I decided the same was true of me, things took an untoward turn. I couldn't prove a single one of my sacred beliefs and discovered that I knew nothing. Since then I have learned that the abandonment of all you thought had to be true makes what actually is true is much easier to see.

Why Jordan Peterson's cultured despisers are wrong - ABC Religion & Ethics

One of the most disappointing features of the debate surrounding Jordan Peterson is that there is no constructive evaluation of his work that would enable us to get a better sense of its actual strengths and weaknesses.

www.abc.net.au

My assessment is evidence-based, from the people who are fans of Jordan Peterson's work. You've specified you were not being sarcastic, that will suffice, and have a nice day!

 

[Moonbeam]

I'm sorry but it doesn't suffice. We still needed the almost instant rejection of any competing challenge to you bigotry going unread as part of the record.

Knowingness is just a made up word for a psychological condition but it is best defined when demonstrated. Thanks for that your help with that.

 

[nakedfrog]

Ah, yes, the good ol' "YOU'RE the bigot", good talk, champ. It does fully suffice, and I now retract my offer for you to have a nice day, and downgrade it to "okay".

 

[Moonbeam]

Ah, yes, the good ol' "YOU'RE the bigot", good talk, champ. It does fully suffice, and I now retract my offer for you to have a nice day, and downgrade it to "okay".

Another cliche of merit is blind as a bigot. You can always tell one but you can't tell them much. It would be like telling a racist there is only one human race. Their knowingness tells them different. And sorry to tell you but the quality of my day will have nothing at all to do with what you say. You, on the other hand, will be cursed whether you know it or not by your bigotry. Hope you wake the fuck up. You are the image of what you hold in contempt. Like the racist idiots you despise, you couldn't help growing up in the same darkness that created them. The only difference in your bigotry is who you blame as the enemy. Hope you get better. Don't forget that manure like yours is the starting point of many a beautiful rose. Hidden within you is love greater than you can possibly imagine in your current state. Hope you find your way out of it, your current state, that is. Sadly, you were never told. They buried your love under a pile of shit. Go make your bed, proud boy.

 

[iRONic]

That’s some high level self righteous bullshit. 😡

 

[Moonbeam]

That’s some high level self righteous bullshit. 😡

I was asked if I was being sarcastic about Jordan Peterson by someone so self righteous that he just had to imply that I must be, so sure is he about Peterson that when I offered a link in good faith that expressed a different point of view he claimed to he already possessed all the evidence he needed based on a made up logical stupidity. But of course, I am the one who is arrogant, not the folk so full of themselves they can’t look at a third party opinion. And then you come along self righteously claiming that pointing it out is self righteous bull shit. Can I assume you didn’t read the link either, that you are not just another of the many on the left whose opinions of Peterson were formed not by familiarity with him expressing himself, but the opinions of him from other people?

 

[Viper1j]

Anyway, the guy reminds me of those people that killed Matthew Shepard all those years ago.

Hiding the gay, by killing gays, is a losing proposition.

 

[iRONic]

I was asked if I was being sarcastic about Jordan Peterson by someone so self righteous that he just had to imply that I must be, so sure is he about Peterson that when I offered a link in good faith that expressed a different point of view he claimed to he already possessed all the evidence he needed based on a made up logical stupidity. But of course, I am the one who is arrogant, not the folk so full of themselves they can’t look at a third party opinion. And then you come along self righteously claiming that pointing it out is self righteous bull shit. Can I assume you didn’t read the link either, that you are not just another of the many on the left whose opinions of Peterson were formed not by familiarity with him expressing himself, but the opinions of him from other people?

Nothing to do with the article or your link; everything to do with your reply to the frog. You portray yourself here as the all-knowing savant of self awareness. As if nobody else has had any introspection.

That’s the self righteous bullshit.

 

[nakedfrog]

Another cliche of merit is blind as a bigot. You can always tell one but you can't tell them much. It would be like telling a racist there is only one human race. Their knowingness tells them different. And sorry to tell you but the quality of my day will have nothing at all to do with what you say. You, on the other hand, will be cursed whether you know it or not by your bigotry. Hope you wake the fuck up. You are the image of what you hold in contempt. Like the racist idiots you despise, you couldn't help growing up in the same darkness that created them. The only difference in your bigotry is who you blame as the enemy. Hope you get better. Don't forget that manure like yours is the starting point of many a beautiful rose. Hidden within you is love greater than you can possibly imagine in your current state. Hope you find your way out of it, your current state, that is. Sadly, you were never told. They buried your love under a pile of shit. Go make your bed, proud boy.

Fuck all the way off, you piece of shit. I rarely bother responding to your pointless tripe because it's not worth the effort to engage, I just wanted to verify you really did mean what you said.

I was asked if I was being sarcastic about Jordan Peterson by someone so self righteous that he just had to imply that I must be, so sure is he about Peterson that when I offered a link in good faith that expressed a different point of view he claimed to he already possessed all the evidence he needed based on a made up logical stupidity. But of course, I am the one who is arrogant, not the folk so full of themselves they can’t look at a third party opinion. And then you come along self righteously claiming that pointing it out is self righteous bull shit. Can I assume you didn’t read the link either, that you are not just another of the many on the left whose opinions of Peterson were formed not by familiarity with him expressing himself, but the opinions of him from other people?

You don't fucking know me, asshole. I have indeed formed my own opinion of Peterson, I've known who he is for a few years, and have personally seen what his teachings have done to people I know. You, of all fucking people, have no place to come off calling others self-righteous. You ARE arrogant, and so caught up in your holier-than-thou "enlightened" navel gazing you can't/won't see it.

 

[mikeymikec]

I'm pleasantly surprised that (AFAIK) none of these "Patriot Front" people have turned out to be police officers... yet.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

We should be pumping money into something like Americore and other non-military civil service programs and actively trying to recruit kids like this before the racist fucktards do.

I've been there before, graduated college right into the 2008 recession, no job for ages out of college feeling like a complete loser.

Lucky for me my GF (now wife) graduated with me into that shitshow and the shared trauma brought us closer together and we gave each other a future to aim for but there is a generation of lost youth out there without a purpose or cause.

Either we give them a path toward self fulfillment or someone else will give them a path toward hate.

 

[Captante]

I now retract my offer for you to have a nice day

Remember what you're actually dealing with.

"Sophisticated intellectual" (lol) troll still = troll.

 

[nakedfrog]

Remember what you're actually dealing with.

"Sophisticated intellectual" (lol) troll still = troll.

Yeah, I guess I still have a lingering memory of the Moonbeam that I liked and respected, many years ago. It's been a long, slow descent.

 

[Moonbeam]

We should be pumping money into something like Americore and other non-military civil service programs and actively trying to recruit kids like this before the racist fucktards do.

I've been there before, graduated college right into the 2008 recession, no job for ages out of college feeling like a complete loser.

Lucky for me my GF (now wife) graduated with me into that shitshow and the shared trauma brought us closer together and we gave each other a future to aim for but there is a generation of lost youth out there without a purpose or cause.

Either we give them a path toward self fulfillment or someone else will give them a path toward hate.

Civilizations have been dealing with the problem of young men for centuries No need to reinvent the wheel. But the authoritarian left is too busy shitting in their pants when they see themselves in the authoritarian right staring back at them. They have to blame all that poop on somebody. First order of business is get the man with the mirror.

 

[Captante]

Yeah, I guess I still have a lingering memory of the Moonbeam that I liked and respected, many years ago. It's been a long, slow descent.

He's not really a bad guy provided you read between the lines.


What is grandiose personality?


Grandiosity is the defining characteristic of narcissism. More than just arrogance or vanity, grandiosity is an unrealistic sense of superiority. Narcissists believe they are unique or “special” and can only be understood by other special people. What's more, they are too good for anything average or ordinary.

(Helpguide.org)

 

[Viper1j]

I'm pleasantly surprised that (AFAIK) none of these "Patriot Front" people have turned out to be police officers... yet.

Or Vets!

 

[Viper1j]

Civilizations have been dealing with the problem of young men for centuries No need to reinvent the wheel. But the authoritarian left is too busy shitting in their pants when they see themselves in the authoritarian right staring back at them. They have to blame all that poop on somebody. First order of business is get the man with the AR-15.

Fixed that for you..

You're welcome.