Some clarification on defective conservative thinking:

Moonbeam

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As I explained in my first recent thread on the defects of the conservative brain, conservatives feel the truth in their gut, an experience Cobert defined as truthiness, i am RIGHT and I am right rolled into one, certainty and selfishness mixed.

I explained that this selfish part is ego, the phony construct we erect over our deeper feelings that we are actually inferior, the armor of denial. I want to show here how the presence of ego, the armor of denial, leads to the defensiveness and a sense of paranoia and persecution conservatives project with the purpose of communicating to the unconscious of our conservative friends they they really only fear fear itself, their own fear and not liberals' fear of them.

The ego is a protection, a denial of worthlessness, a self created aggrandizement that one is of value, not internally, but via identification with something thought by groups to be of value out there in the world, ones nation, tribe race team political affiliation, religion, etc. Now one has the safety of group think and worldly respect but it can always be threatened if the group is. Thus we find much team spirit among the mentally ill.

So ones sense of team and self are combined and one is not any more consciously defending the self but the good team such that one is actually a champion of the good.

So now when somebody wanders by and criticizes the group think a paranoid reaction occurs that something evil is at foot. Something disgusting, because, again, we are talking turthiness, a gut reaction. And this fear is projected out on the offender, the one who is different, who is not infected with the sacred group think. This is the reason we see in the world the phenomenon of mass psychosis, the projection, say on the Jews, that they were destroying Germany and must themselves be destroyed.

In short, the conservative brain decease can be very dangerous when it is collectively expressed and any sane person is going to fear that.

So conservatives fear liberals because they are disgusting and evil and liberals fear conservatives because they are dangerous when they go into a mass psychosis and only one of these fears is insane, but they look to be the same to the conservative brain.

Liberals should try to do something about this. Every time you attack a conservative as an idiot or a moron, or a frightened psychotic or angry raging fool, it looks to him that you are describing yourself, because he can't help but project on you the fear you cause him to feel.

But that is all the product of the fact that conservatives have this overprotective ego. You can't have any good sense as to fear mass psychosis but you must be afraid of him. He has to inflate his self importance to make him feel he is the real target, that your intention is to take him down a notch, not alert him to the fact that he's actually dangerous to himself, his own kind, and the sane world as well.

Conservatives love to battle with the enemy because it feeds their self importance, that they are on the team of the good,and you consternation at their impregnable stupidity is a delight to their egos.

But what they deserve is pity because they can't see the truth and wonder in darkness working unconsciously for the apocalypse that will justify their existence to begin. The conservative brain prefers that the world should die than that they see.

Nobody who has been made to hate himself ever wants to feel it again. In that we are all conservative.
 

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Your self delusional images of grandeur are cute, like a puppy who's back legs don't work, you crawl along scrapping your butt on the ground and passersby can't help but "awwww, poor thing".
 

BoberFett

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As much as conservative moral busybodies annoy me, it's nothing compared the disgust I have for "liberals" who have so little going on in their minds that all they can do is obsess about conservatives.
 

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As much as conservative moral busybodies annoy me, it's nothing compared the disgust I have for "liberals" who have so little going on in their minds that all they can do is obsess about conservatives.
:D +1 Thread backfire, take two.

Matt Stone said it best: I hate conservatives but I really fvcking hate liberals.
 

Steeplerot

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Good points, they usually have no trust in fellow man and assume first that people are inherently evil/on the take. This says a lot about a person. I always laugh when conservatives show their envy/faux outrage when someone scams the system.

They are gangsters, or they would like to think they are.
 
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Thanks Moonie...I see the light now, and for the first time in my life, I feel truly free to sing and dance and love. Yours truly, DSF (aka Gangster of Love)

P.S. Oh...and thanks for the pity too! I just can't get enough!
 
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Moonbeam

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Your self delusional images of grandeur are cute, like a puppy who's back legs don't work, you crawl along scrapping your butt on the ground and passersby can't help but "awwww, poor thing".

Here we see what happens when a mirror suggest that something might be wrong with me and I react to being wrong as being evil instead of having some defect that can be rectified. The feeling is that I am being belittled by somebody who has a need to feel superior to me, somebody with delusions of grandeur. As I pointed out, the ego exists because of delusions of inferiority and it is from these delusions that we project delusions of grandeur on others. The person can't take in the possibility he is defective so he is lost. He shuts the door on any hope he might have.
 

Moonbeam

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As much as conservative moral busybodies annoy me, it's nothing compared the disgust I have for "liberals" who have so little going on in their minds that all they can do is obsess about conservatives.

Were we see why even clarification of intention is useless. The sane recognition that conservatives are dangerous to all of us can't be true but only an obsession. To a combatively obsessed defensive person everybody looks obsessive. This is the ostrich with it's head in the sand pointing at everyone else with its ass. This is a member of an elite group that is persecuted by all others.
 

Moonbeam

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Thanks Moonie...I see the light now, and for the first time in my life, I feel truly free to sing and dance and love. Yours truly, DSF (aka Gangster of Love)

P.S. Oh...and thanks for the pity too! I just can't get enough!

You mock love because the last time you were able to you were killed for it.

If it is any consolation, your self-pity is duly noted.
 

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Oooo Oooo, can I be next!?!

You seem to diagnose the conservitive condition as being something tantamont to a soccer rioter with daddy issues. Dangerous in a group, dysfunctional alone.

Could not the same be said for all group think situations, even those of liberal mindset that have really dug in? I notice little if any arguments about the politics of the matter (social conservancy, smaller gov, etc.)

Duely blundered from my thunderdolt
 

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I wonder why other libs are not trying to silence Moon? He makes them all look like lunatics with his anti-conservative idotic posts. I would expect them to be in there disavowing his tantrums and claiming he is a fringe element and does not reflect their views.
 

Orignal Earl

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Your self delusional images of grandeur are cute, like a puppy who's back legs don't work, you crawl along scrapping your butt on the ground and passersby can't help but "awwww, poor thing".

That dogs legs work just fine.
He is actually just wiping his ass on your carpet.
The passerbys don't even see him when they say that
 

Moonbeam

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Did you win the relay race, moonbeam?

You came to prove my case that the conservative brain disease is ego? It is only the ego that is ever thinks in terms of a race. You think I am out to win because you have something you don't want to lose. For you this is a contest. but I came to warn liberals about contesting with conservatives, that it only inflates their egos by making them look as if they had something real to compete with.

You can't compete with me. I am your mirror, how you really feel, totally worthless. You declared yourself the winner before we even began.
 

cybrsage

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You can't compete with me. I am your mirror, how you really feel, totally worthless. You declared yourself the winner before we even began.

Yes, you are a mirror...and a winner too! Good job! Last week you were a duck...and a winner too! Here is another ribbon! Let's take your picture of you holding up your ribbon. NICE! Good boy! :)
 

BoberFett

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Good points, they usually have no trust in fellow man and assume first that people are inherently evil/on the take. This says a lot about a person. I always laugh when conservatives show their envy/faux outrage when someone scams the system.

They are gangsters, or they would like to think they are.

Funny, it's always "liberals" who say we need vast bodies of law because you can't trust people to do the right thing. That's why they hate libertarians so much. I'd say "liberals" distrust their fellow man far more than conservatives.
 

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Everyone wins the kind of relay races Moonbeam qualifies for, they all win ribbons, as they all are "special". :hmm:
:D Burn!

I wonder why other libs are not trying to silence Moon? He makes them all look like lunatics with his anti-conservative idotic posts. I would expect them to be in there disavowing his tantrums and claiming he is a fringe element and does not reflect their views.
Moonbeam isn't really a liberal, he's just, well, Moonbeam. Unique, and therefore valuable.
 

Moonbeam

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Yes, you are a mirror...and a winner too! Good job! Last week you were a duck...and a winner too! Here is another ribbon! Let's take your picture of you holding up your ribbon. NICE! Good boy! :)

Even victory isn't enough for you. You need to grind the loser into the dirt. You can never win. Because the loser you see in me is you. Everywhere you go you win because everywhere you go all you see is what you feel and you feel worthless. Not only do you always win, you've never had a real contestant.
 

Moonbeam

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Yes, you are a mirror...and a winner too! Good job! Last week you were a duck...and a winner too! Here is another ribbon! Let's take your picture of you holding up your ribbon. NICE! Good boy! :)

You have noted, I am sure, that my avatar is a clown....

It is there to show folk how they will behave when they see me. You, of course, quickly act like a clown when your image is held up because it's how you really feel. You won't see this but others will.
 

Moonbeam

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Funny, it's always "liberals" who say we need vast bodies of law because you can't trust people to do the right thing. That's why they hate libertarians so much. I'd say "liberals" distrust their fellow man far more than conservatives.

Perhaps you lack the understanding to see that conservatives and liberals are united by the coin of which they represent in two faces.

Conservatives, as Steeplerot pointed out, see humans as fundamentally evil whereas in truth they are not. Liberals see the evil that humans become when they believe in good and evil. Conservative, therefore, want laws to punish people and liberals want laws that prevent folk from acting out their feelings that they are evil. It looks to be much the same thing.

So liberals pass laws to try to define the golden rule in societal terms, define the rules, and conservatives pass laws to force conformity by fear, magnify the threat.

A libertarian is somebody, I think, who does not want conservatives going vigilante and hanging him, but doesn't want to admit to his own possible corruption via his own self hate. He may in fact have achieved a real internal morality such that he actually doesn't need law, or just be in denial and angry at the world. The mouthy types are usually the latter, conservatives free of the holiness agenda of the fundamentalist right.
 

Lemon law

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While I agree with Moonbeam, I will admit its perhaps because I have a defective liberal brain.

Thereafter it then defaults to Darwin and the survival of the fittest. And not in terms of just what specific individuals can profit from a mess and instead the best survival chances for the American economy.

As the liberal mindset under the last term of GHB and eight years of Bill Clinton plus some congressional rationality ended up greatly benefiting the American people.

But as soon as GWB and the conservative mindset got back in charge from 2001 to 2009, it not only collapsed the American economy, it damn near destroyed the entire World economy. As the conservative mindset seeming has not learned a damn thing since Herbert Hoover.

But I have to give the conservative mindset one thing, they sure talk a good fantasy, but when it comes to actual results, the conservative mindset never delivers the bacon.