software that organizes your mp3 collection?

waylman

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Do you guys use any software to organize your music? iTunes seems to do a great job for the MAC users, but what's out there for Windows?
 

Confused

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I make sure I name the files correctly (and using the same syntax: Artist - Album - TrackNo - Title) and then put them into directories of Artist\Album.


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waylman

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I do this also, but I would like something like iTunes so I could rank favorites etc. Is there nothing for Windows like iTunes? I've done a Google search and haven't really come up with anything. I would imagine there would be a huge market for this kind of thing?!?!
 

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I use musicmatch jukebox. It's pretty decent at organizing your stuff plus it will "smart-tag" your MP3's for you. Smart tagging intelligently uses filenames and whatnot to do the id3 tags (which is what musicmatch uses to catalog your stuff, not the filename)

It's also really nice for ripping cd's to mp3. The interface is a little dazzled and fluffy but the underlying program is great.
 

waylman

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well, it's clear to me there is a hole in the market for this type of product. All you programmers out there get to work!
 

Mitzi

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Originally posted by: waylman
well, it's clear to me there is a hole in the market for this type of product. All you programmers out there get to work!


Unless the files have some sort of meaningful ID tag or filename, it would be more or less impossible to organise the files unless some form of heuristic scanning was used...imagine it...an application which knows what Britney sounds like, I wouldn't want to put MY machine through that!
 

dakels

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Originally posted by: Mitzi
Originally posted by: waylman
well, it's clear to me there is a hole in the market for this type of product. All you programmers out there get to work!


Unless the files have some sort of meaningful ID tag or filename, it would be more or less impossible to organise the files unless some form of heuristic scanning was used...imagine it...an application which knows what Britney sounds like, I wouldn't want to put MY machine through that!
umm... they don't? Why would this be different then just using a file search for type? Thats all iTunes does. In fact that's what makes it so badass. The search function works as efficiently as the normal OS file search, but iTunes uses for everything from making playlists, finding all playable audio and video formats on your HDs and making a master library, creating smart playlists which can be defined by artist/genre/time length/year/etc, to even in the Music store to find music to buy. I don't see why a windows MP3 manager can't do this. Its seems so simple to me but I'm not a prorgrammer so what do I know. I'm still trying to figure out why Windows MP3 player/managers suck so bad when there are so many companies making them.
 

Mitzi

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Originally posted by: dakelsumm... they don't? Why would this be different then just using a file search for type? Thats all iTunes does. In fact that's what makes it so badass. The search function works as efficiently as the normal OS file search, but iTunes uses for everything from making playlists, finding all playable audio and video formats on your HDs and making a master library, creating smart playlists which can be defined by artist/genre/time length/year/etc, to even in the Music store to find music to buy. I don't see why a windows MP3 manager can't do this. Its seems so simple to me but I'm not a prorgrammer so what do I know. I'm still trying to figure out why Windows MP3 player/managers suck so bad when there are so many companies making them.

I think you misunderstood me...what I was saying is that it would be very difficult for an application to sort a bunch of random mp3s UNLESS they had meaningful filenames or ID tags.

For example, if a file was named Some C@rp band name - Yet another cover.mp3, thats pretty simple to sort and organise but a bunch of MP3s labeled 1.mp3, 2.mp3, 3.mp3 with no ID tags would be impossible to sort and organise as it would be too difficult to analyse the file contents, what with different versions and bitrates of identical songs floating around.
 

bunker

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Originally posted by: Mitzi
Originally posted by: waylman
well, it's clear to me there is a hole in the market for this type of product. All you programmers out there get to work!


Unless the files have some sort of meaningful ID tag or filename, it would be more or less impossible to organise the files unless some form of heuristic scanning was used...imagine it...an application which knows what Britney sounds like, I wouldn't want to put MY machine through that!

http://www.musicbrainz.org --- heuristic song scanning for ID3 tagging.

From their site:
The MusicBrainz solution for this is the MusicBrainz Tagger, a Windows application that uses acoustic fingerprints (TRMs) to semiautomatically identify tracks in your music collection and then write clean and accurate metadata to your music files.
 

BoomAM

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RealOne player will automatically name and sort into directories your music baced on the ID3 tags that MP3s have. At the click of a button as well. Customisable as well.
 

dakels

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Originally posted by: BoomAM
RealOne player will automatically name and sort into directories your music baced on the ID3 tags that MP3s have. At the click of a button as well. Customisable as well.
would this be before or after it labotomizes your PC?
 

BoomAM

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Originally posted by: dakels
Originally posted by: BoomAM
RealOne player will automatically name and sort into directories your music baced on the ID3 tags that MP3s have. At the click of a button as well. Customisable as well.
would this be before or after it labotomizes your PC?
That would before smart arse.
RealOne player is not like RealPlayer. It just installs RealOne player. No more. No less. Its the other Real products which are naff and installs spy/adware & eats up system resources.
 

Mitzi

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Originally posted by: bunker
Originally posted by: Mitzi
Originally posted by: waylman
well, it's clear to me there is a hole in the market for this type of product. All you programmers out there get to work!


Unless the files have some sort of meaningful ID tag or filename, it would be more or less impossible to organise the files unless some form of heuristic scanning was used...imagine it...an application which knows what Britney sounds like, I wouldn't want to put MY machine through that!

http://www.musicbrainz.org --- heuristic song scanning for ID3 tagging.

From their site:
The MusicBrainz solution for this is the MusicBrainz Tagger, a Windows application that uses acoustic fingerprints (TRMs) to semiautomatically identify tracks in your music collection and then write clean and accurate metadata to your music files.

I stand corrected. Interesting software.
 

ProviaFan

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Originally posted by: MasterSamwise
Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey
bash, ls, mv, cp, rename, find, xargs, etc.
Isn't this post about an alternative for windows?
Excuse me? ;)

<-- uses folders and filenames to organize his MP3s, with UltraTagger to fix the ID3v2 tags if necessary.
 

relaxandreflect

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a friend of mine used to have a neat MP3 program that would let you search and add songs to playlists that he downloaded from either cnet or zdnet. i haven't been able to find it again, but it was a really great program and free too. if you find a good free
one, let me know.
 

Davegod

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have a try of AnalogX Tagmaster, naff name, looks a bit naff, does the job (try putting your ratings in the Comments tag), except it doesnt support .ogg (or wma, etc) files.