Software sales to developing countries at lower prices

MadRat

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Seems to me that developing countries ought to pay full retail, just like we do, or we should get a refund. I paid my $200 for XP and $400 for Office XP Pro. I want my refund! :)
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: MadRat
Seems to me that developing countries ought to pay full retail, just like we do, or we should get a refund. I paid my $200 for XP and $400 for Office XP Pro. I want my refund! :)

Not only that, it's better version of the Software with all the Bloatware removed too.
 

chess9

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Those countries need low cost software so they can have the tools to steal American jobs. Nice to see Microsoft doing its part. :)

-Robert
 

Czar

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if they sold it at that price all over the world then I would say good bye to windows piracy because people would actually buy it
 

BugsBunny1078

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Originally posted by: Czar
if they sold it at that price all over the world then I would say good bye to windows piracy because people would actually buy it

Sure just like all the people that actually buy games that are 10-40$ instead of stealing them.
:light:
:roll:
 

Czar

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Originally posted by: BugsBunny1078
Originally posted by: Czar
if they sold it at that price all over the world then I would say good bye to windows piracy because people would actually buy it

Sure just like all the people that actually buy games that are 10-40$ instead of stealing them.
:light:
:roll:

a legal operating system that allows you to use everything you want to use and access to constant updates or a game that just sucks and can be compared to windows95 when it comes to how finished it is and if you are lucky you get 2-3 updates a year but that doesnt matter since you will be bored of it after a week or two, hmmm alot of differene
 

CanOWorms

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Originally posted by: hatim
more info? Where? Who said?

it's common knowledge that software and books are sold at different prices around the world. they're really cheap (to us) in developing countries. a lot of people even buy textbooks overseas and get it shipped back to them
 

Ldir

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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: hatim
more info? Where? Who said?

it's common knowledge that software and books are sold at different prices around the world. they're really cheap (to us) in developing countries. a lot of people even buy textbooks overseas and get it shipped back to them

Just like prescription drugs.
 
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Originally posted by: Ldir
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: hatim
more info? Where? Who said?

it's common knowledge that software and books are sold at different prices around the world. they're really cheap (to us) in developing countries. a lot of people even buy textbooks overseas and get it shipped back to them

Just like prescription drugs.

And wives.
 

chess9

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HOP:

There is no such thing as a cheap wife. You may take that to the bank.

:)

-Robert
 

Stunt

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Actually from microsoft's perspective, it makes sense. Raise the price and sell zero copies, lower the price sell some copies. I'm sure the majority will be pirated i imagine as that is a large problem in developing countries.

Also, it's like having tax brackets in north america. Here the taxes are 20-25% for mid class and up to 40% for upper class. Even though the rich pay more tax (since it is a percentage) they have a larger percentage just because they are the 'haves' in the country.

Now take that to an international scale. It only makes sense that we, the haves of the world pay more for the product than the have nots.
Now don't get me wrong, i want cheaper software as well and i do think MS overcharges. But i would never expect to pay the same as a person in a developing nation!
 

Stunt

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Actually my neighbour has a massive collection of DVDs as he is stationed with the canadian armed forces in Afganistan.
$2.50CAD a DVD, not bad eh?

Need a special player though, which supports all the regions.
 

Infohawk

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This is another situation where free trade would help the US. In a real free trade system, those third world countries would be allowed to resell us their software, thus reducing prices here and balancing worldwide price levels. The problem is now is we have a hampered free-trade (and it's not a Dem. or Repub. issue) system.
 

Stunt

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The same thing is happening with drugs in the US. All the states and seniors in the US drive up here to canada (or buy online) drugs as their prices are regulated here.
So we buy drugs from US drug companies for X dollars, sell for 2X dollars here in canada meanwhile your US drug companies sell them in the US for 10X dollars. Same drugs same regulations (if not better)...u guys have way more drugs approved than us. I don't know the exact dollar figures but we are making some decent coin off your system by selling they drugs back to you...

One of the benifits of the US shareholder wanting maximum dividends from their drug companies...oh and drug companies being big supporters of key political influences in washington.
 

The Green Bean

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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: hatim
more info? Where? Who said?

it's common knowledge that software and books are sold at different prices around the world. they're really cheap (to us) in developing countries. a lot of people even buy textbooks overseas and get it shipped back to them

Last time I checked, Rs5000 for Windows XP home (equal to $120). Right now im on a pirated edition (not myt fault actually. The PC came with this ;) besides pirating is not "illegal" here). Im thinking of switching back to 2000 if the windows update problem continues unless I can find cheap leagal copies.

P.S im from karachi, Paksitan
 

TommyVercetti

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Originally posted by: hatim
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: hatim
more info? Where? Who said?

it's common knowledge that software and books are sold at different prices around the world. they're really cheap (to us) in developing countries. a lot of people even buy textbooks overseas and get it shipped back to them

Last time I checked, Rs5000 for Windows XP home (equal to $120). Right now im on a pirated edition (not myt fault actually. The PC came with this ;) besides pirating is not "illegal" here). Im thinking of switching back to 2000 if the windows update problem continues unless I can find cheap leagal copies.

P.S im from karachi, Paksitan

Pirating is illegal there. When I was there back in 1996, MS got some computer shops shut down, like Novel computers and what not. Ofcourse that didn't matter anyways.

Anyone actually buys software there?
 

NumbersGuy

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Originally posted by: Infohawk
This is another situation where free trade would help the US. In a real free trade system, those third world countries would be allowed to resell us their software, thus reducing prices here and balancing worldwide price levels. The problem is now is we have a hampered free-trade (and it's not a Dem. or Repub. issue) system.

It's a system to let us buy/sell at our convenience, say Chinese cheap goods / GM crops, yet hampers inconvenient items, say steel, oranges.

I purchased an international version of a foundations book for 1/2 US price, same text but soft cover, not worth extra $80 for a hard cover.


As with Canadian medicines, can't see why an enterprising overseas ATer can't begin selling & shipping the legal versions back to the US. ;)
 
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Yeah, this is just like the prescription drugs. As long as Microsoft has some countries to 'fund' the initial development costs, then they can sell software to developing countries at dirt cheap prices since producing the actual software once the development is finished costs them virtually nothing.
 

Klixxer

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: Ldir
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: hatim
more info? Where? Who said?

it's common knowledge that software and books are sold at different prices around the world. they're really cheap (to us) in developing countries. a lot of people even buy textbooks overseas and get it shipped back to them

Just like prescription drugs.

And wives.

Yup, i hear they go for the same price everywhere, honorary killings if they refuse. Same all over the world.

In Sweden, Germany, Japan, Saudi, America, Canada, wherever.

Do you want to do anything about that or just bash Arabs?
 

MadRat

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Originally posted by: chess9
HOP:
There is no such thing as a cheap wife. You may take that to the bank.
:)
-Robert

Comments like that will get you double-elite status for sure. I feel the pain!
 

athithi

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Originally posted by: chess9
Those countries need low cost software so they can have the tools to steal American jobs. Nice to see Microsoft doing its part. :)

-Robert

Stop propagating this nonsense that India (and other developing nations) are stealing jobs. Jobs are not a commodity that one can purchase legally or steal illegally. This kind of name calling (yes, you are calling developing nations, thieves) is very counter-productive to the issue. There is no way that you are going to browbeat ANY country into rejecting these jobs - so stop barking up the wrong tree. You don't even realize the kind of damage you are capable of doing - I see a rising sentiment against Asians and there will, in the very near future, come a day when some laid-off American worker kills or injures an Asian precisely because of false propaganda like the one you are perpetrating. Instead, go throw stones at Bill Gates and Michael Dell - the very icons of American Capitalism :roll:

Infohawk - if you believe that prices must be balanced throughout the world, surely you realize that cost of living must be balanced first. Do you even know what the cost of living in developing nations is? You either make $40/hr and pay $300 for Windows XP or you make $10/hr and pay $75 for it. It's ridiculous of you to expect to make $40/hr and pay only $75 for Windows XP or for someone making $10/hr to pay $300 for Windows XP. I don't know if you are a hardware kind of guy, but If motherboards were manufactured here in the US, I bet you wouldn't be purchasing the latest and greatest ones for under $150. Your American companies would be selling them for $500 (or in the automobiles analogy, they would simply lack the edge in quality).

People like Dave McOwen thrive on this exaggerated, sensationalized, mob mentality. But I hope atleast a handful that read my post stop believing in this bullsh!t that someone in some corner of the world is sneakily scheming day and night to STEAL your job, starve your kids, throw you out on the street and force your wife to turn tricks for a living :| It's NOT true.

Edited for spelling
 

Genesys

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Not only that, it's better version of the Software with all the Bloatware removed too.

where the hell did you hear that!? i dont think MS is going to take the time and effort to make a syria edition of windows xp with bloatware removed.

besides, the whole of every piece of MS crapware IS bloatware.