Software CPU overclocking utility that runs automatically at boot?

Fardringle

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I have a socket 754 Sempron 2600+ on a Biostar K8NHA Grand motherboard. The overcloking option in the motherboard's BIOS tops out at 250 FSB (there aren't any higher options at all) so I've been running my Sempron happily at that speed for several months with no problems at all (RAM at a 166 divider so it was running at 216 bus speed).

Yesterday, my system shut down and restarted itself for no apparent reason and loaded Windows at stock CPU and RAM speeds. I figured the BIOS just reset itself so I went into the BIOS to set the overclock again, but the BIOS was still set to 250 FSB even though the system was actually booting at the stock 200 FSB. I cleared and reset the CMOS on the motherboard and let the computer boot once at 200 FSB for both CPU and RAM, then restarted and tried many different overclocking combinations of FSB for CPU and RAM but no matter what, the system still booted every time at 200 FSB. It's almost as if the motherboard is ignoring the BUS settings in the BIOS for some reason. I even reflashed the BIOS (it was already at the newest version) with no change.

Anyway, I can't stand running anything at stock speeds so I need your help. I either need to figure out how to get the settings in the BIOS to take effect when booting the PC again, or I need a software overclocking utility that will let me overclock the machine from within Windows XP. I played around with SoftFSB for a while yesterday evening and it seems to work great. With the memory divider set at 166 (the BIOS did finally take this setting again although it still ignores CPU FSB settings) SoftFSB even let me push the FSB up to 259 with just a bit of instability (a 90 MHz improvement over what I had before) and seems to be totally stable at 258 which is rather nice, and I suspect that it might go even higher when I set the HTT multiplier to 3 instead of 4 when I get home today. The only problem is that SoftFSB doesn't keep settings after a reboot so if I do keep using it, I'll have to manually overclock my CPU any time I restart the computer. This isn't a huge deal, but it is annoying and I'd rather not do it if I don't have to.

I would prefer to get the BIOS to work properly again so I don't have to use any extra applications at all, but if I can't do that, does anyone know of an application that will keep and apply CPU overclock settings after a reboot the way RivaTuner and PowerStrip do for video cards?
 

furballi

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RAM should be around 208 with 5:6 divider.

Clockgen version CG-NVNF3 works with my ECS 754 NF3 board. You can use Clockgen's auto load feature once you're in Windows.
 

Budman

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I have a Biostar K8NHA (not grand) but like you the latest bios took away the fsb overclocking,with the older 7/13/04 bios i can overclock just fine but i lose 1/2 my ram because my Sempron 64 is a E6 version and that bios doesnt detect the cpu properly and the mem controller only uses 1 slot of ram. :(

but if you can downgrade your bios this should fix it but if you cant like furballi has said clockgen will allow you to OC it to 250mhz from inside windows.

Hope that helps.

Edit , i found a ftp with your older bios <a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="ftp://ftp.biostar-usa.com/bios/K8NHA%20GRAND"><a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="ftp://ftp.biostar-usa.com/bios/K8NHA%20GRAND">ftp://ftp.biostar-usa.com/bios/K8NHA%20GRAND</a></a>

 

Fardringle

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I have to use the newest BIOS or the system doesn't recognize my Corsair RAM properly. This BIOS version actually didn't take the overclocking ability away. I've been running overclocked with this BIOS since about a week after I got the motherboard (about 5 months ago) and it only stopped working yesterday.

I'll give clockgen a try. Thanks.
 

Fardringle

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Well, ClockGen seems to work just the same as SoftFSB, although the program file itself is a bit smaller. Unfortunately, it looks like it does not support automatic startup when Windows boots, though..

Quoted from the author's FAQ:
Q: How can I save the new clocks and apply them at startup ?
A: This new version of ClockGen does not support this feature yet. As soon as the program will be tested in a wide range and most problems will be fixed, a save feature will be added.

Thanks for the suggestion, though. Maybe I'll just set ClockGen or SoftFSB to run at startup then just manually apply the clock settings I want whenever I have to reboot until the "save" feature is added to ClockGen.
 

BlueWeasel

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Make sure you are running the NF3-only version of Clockgen (CG-NVNF3), as it can load up in ghost mode and apply the settings automatically from a simple text file..

From the Readme.txt file:

Parameters
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-file=savefile.ini : Launch ClockGen in ghost mode and apply the
settings stored in the save file.


Save file format
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The save file is a common text file, created with a text editor.
It includes :
- a signature : [CG-NVNF3]
- the FID, VID, FSB and AGP values.

Example of save file :
[CG-NVNF3]
VID=1.425
FID=9.5
FSB=200
AGP=66

Notice that :
- each of these values is optional.
- the settings are applied in the order they appear in the file.

In the example above, the program will apply VID, then FID, then the FSB
speed, and endly the AGP speed.

Just create a text file using the syntax above with the values you need, and save it as filename.ini in the Clockgen NF3 folder. Then, create a startup shortcut to the Clockgen.exe like so:

CG-NVNF3.exe -file=filename.ini

Clockgen should start in the background and your specific settings from filename.ini should be loaded. Problem solved! :)
 

furballi

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Create a text document and name it SAVEFILE.INI. Put SAVEFILE.INI in the Clockgen folder. Open SAVEFILE.INI and type

[CG-NVNF3]
FSB=XXX

where XXX is the bus speed that you want to run at PC boot. Save this data.


Create a text document and name it CLOCKGEN.BAT. Put CLOCKGEN.BAT in the Clockgen folder. Edit CLOCKGEN.BAT and type

CG-NVNF3.exe -file=SAVEFILE.INI. Save data.

Now create a shortcut of CLOCKGEN.BAT on your desktop. Drag this shortcut to STARTUP under START\PROGRAMS\STARTUP

Note that you keep the FSB value to a reasonable level. If the FSB is too high, windows will crash when Clockgen runs at startup.

 

Fardringle

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Oh very nice! Thank you very much both of you. I never would have found an NF3-only version of the program if you hadn't told me specifically what to look for. That startup batch file works perfectly! :D

Not only do I not care so much about the BIOS not overclocking any more, but I'm actually happy it failed so that I'd be forced to look for an alternative. Before now, I was satisfied with running my CPU at 2.0GHz since that's the maximum the BIOS would allow (250FSB) but after playing with ClockGen for a while and stress testing with Prime95 and RTHDRIBL, I've discovered that my computer appears to be completely stable so far at 2230MHz CPU (2.23GHz with 279FSB) and 223MHz RAM (166 divider at CAS 2.5), and now that you showed me how to apply the settings at startup with this NF3 specific version of ClockGen, I'm VERY happy! Thanks again for the help!
 

Budman

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Originally posted by: Fardringle
Oh very nice! Thank you very much both of you. I never would have found an NF3-only version of the program if you hadn't told me specifically what to look for. That startup batch file works perfectly! :D

Not only do I not care so much about the BIOS not overclocking any more, but I'm actually happy it failed so that I'd be forced to look for an alternative. Before now, I was satisfied with running my CPU at 2.0GHz since that's the maximum the BIOS would allow (250FSB) but after playing with ClockGen for a while and stress testing with Prime95 and RTHDRIBL, I've discovered that my computer appears to be completely stable so far at 2230MHz CPU (2.23GHz with 279FSB) and 223MHz RAM (166 divider at CAS 2.5), and now that you showed me how to apply the settings at startup with this NF3 specific version of ClockGen, I'm VERY happy! Thanks again for the help!

I actualy forgot about that older NF3 utility (been a while since i had NF3 board)

I am glad you guys reminder me,so far i'm prime testing my old NF3-150 at 300fsb. :)

gotta love those new E6 semprons ;)

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2gigs

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but, i mean, comon, i mean, this board obviously seems like a hunk of junk

no offense (im a lanparty board perosn)
 

Budman

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Originally posted by: 2gigs
but, i mean, comon, i mean, this board obviously seems like a hunk of junk

no offense (im a lanparty board perosn)


300fsb from a board i bough off ebay for 5.02$ , hum ok you buy your very expensive lanparty i will stick with my 5$ board.

 

Fardringle

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Sure, a $200 DFI motherboard would probably overclock much better than this Biostar motherboard, but I also spent less for my motherboard, CPU and RAM than you did for just your motherboard. And for a PC on a very tight budget, well, you do the math. ;)
 

BlueWeasel

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Originally posted by: Budman
Originally posted by: 2gigs
but, i mean, comon, i mean, this board obviously seems like a hunk of junk

no offense (im a lanparty board perosn)


300fsb from a board i bough off ebay for 5.02$ , hum ok you buy your very expensive lanparty i will stick with my 5$ board.

Damn! Now that's a hot deal :)