Socket 754 better then 462 overall?

[skipsneeky2]

I got 2 complete motherboards+ram+Sempron 3000+ cpus.One setup is based on the Nforce 2 Socket 462 or A and the other is based on the Sis 760 for 754.

From what i gathered,this 754 motherboard is one of the unlucky ones to feature a AGP 8x and the 3000+ for 754 has half the cache of the Socket A variant but the intergrated memory controller for 754 i guess makes the 754 based 3000+ better then anything that came out on 462?

Biggest deal i guess for this 754 motherboard is the included sata ports but the build i got going for it will be including a MX4000+a 40gb ide drive for now.I know the MX4000 is the weakest link in the build but tossing on something like a 6800 ultra should certain favor 754 i believe?

I don't know all that much about these early AMD setups,have been exclusively a Intel guy since 478 and the P4 but i got these setups sitting about and want to make use of them.

 

[AMD64Blondie]

At first I thought this was a necro post from 2005,but then I noticed the post date.

(I'm kidding..Haven't seen any posts about the early AMD setups in a really long time.)

 

[smitbret]

For whatever you could possibly use them for...... I don't think it's gonna make much difference. The nForce 2 chipset was better for overclocking and probably more stable. SiS wasn't really a big player at any point.

These are both pretty old, what are you going to do with it?

 

[Omar F1]

Socket A as well as socket 478 would never be forgotten.

I think overclocked 754 would be the choice to go.
Personally I tried Abit KV8 Pro - VIA K8T800 chipset and it overclocked just fine.

Good luck, have some warm nostalgic moments

 

[skipsneeky2]

Socket A as well as socket 478 would never be forgotten.

I think overclocked 754 would be the choice to go.
Personally I tried Abit KV8 Pro - VIA K8T800 chipset and it overclocked just fine.

Good luck, have some warm nostalgic moments

Should see this thing,i even got what i would think was a high end case from maybe 1999 with the slide out motherboard+card tray which is in prestine condition.Delta 80mm in the front about to declare war each time its powered up.

I don't toss many parts,i make something work and give it some sort of other function.

 

[Deders]

Just want to throw this into mix, most SIS boards performed significantly worse than boards from other brands. Nforce 2 boards on the other hand were renowned for performing better than their counterparts, especially when setup right so the memory runs at the same speed as the frontside bus. In some cases a mildly overclocked 2GHz AthlonXP 2400 could outperform a 3GHz pentium 4.

 

[notposting]

Really, you won't notice a lot of difference, because compared to anything modern, they will feel slow.

The 754 would be a K8 part though, so should be a bit more spritely than the K7 462 variant. Check the caps and make sure none are bulging/blown already on both of those!

 

[SPBHM]

s754 can probably run windows 8/10, 462 can't (without some hacks)

but if you are building a retro gaming PC, I think 462 + nforce 2 is cooler.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Interesting. I don't think I would go any older than Core2, to be honest. But you already have the kit, so go nuts, put Win98se on a 40GB IDE HDD.

 

[Leyawiin]

s754 can probably run windows 8/10, 462 can't (without some hacks)

but if you are building a retro gaming PC, I think 462 + nforce 2 is cooler.

Neither one can run 8.1 or 10.

 

[Z15CAM]

Neither one can run 8.1 or 10.

I kinda agree with that but Socket A single core Barton's will run Win7 32-Bit SP3 and Dual Core will run Win7 64-Bit Sp1.

Loved the old nForce 2 and 4 chip-sets.

 

[SPBHM]

Neither one can run 8.1 or 10.

I had windows 8.1 running on my Sempron 2600+ s754,
it was fine, no hacks required.

if it runs 8.1 it runs 10 as far as I know.

socket A wouldn't run due to the lack of SSE2/NX

perhaps older 754 CPUs cannot run (or some MB/bios), but 754 Sempron Palermo (Venice with less l2) with the PC Chips SIS 761GX board I used can.

 

[skipsneeky2]

I had windows 8.1 running on my Sempron 2600+ s754,
it was fine, no hacks required.

if it runs 8.1 it runs 10 as far as I know.

socket A wouldn't run due to the lack of SSE2/NX

perhaps older 754 CPUs cannot run (or some MB/bios), but 754 Sempron Palermo (Venice with less l2) with the PC Chips SIS 761GX board I used can.

Yup i was messing about with this 754 setup yesterday,got W7 to work as flawless as i could with a 64mb mx4000 running the show.Some steps did enable the 93.71 drivers to get installed but any 3d game or application like gpu-z or msi afterburner caused a immediate bsod.

GPU was constantly spiking to 100% anytime a window or chrome tab popped open along with the cpu.Not a great experience but to say it worked is cool i guess.:thumbsup:

 

[Hi-Fi Man]

Too bad it's not a socket 939, the socket 754 K8s were the budget chips with single channel memory controllers. That being said I would most likely pick the 754 board because K8 is still usable and socket 754 K8s work with the latest windows (only 32-bit after windows 8 due to missing instructions).

 

[Bradtech519]

I had a Socket 754 Clawhammer 3700+. That thing was a beast. It was my last single core chip. I don't believe the board was SiS chipset. Seems like SiS was on lower end boards. Want to say VIA VIA K8M800 or nForce 4.

 

[cubby1223]

Yup i was messing about with this 754 setup yesterday,got W7 to work as flawless as i could with a 64mb mx4000 running the show.Some steps did enable the 93.71 drivers to get installed but any 3d game or application like gpu-z or msi afterburner caused a immediate bsod.

GPU was constantly spiking to 100% anytime a window or chrome tab popped open along with the cpu.Not a great experience but to say it worked is cool i guess.:thumbsup:

Just hand the parts over to a recycling company. Computer hardware is in gross oversupply in the world. If you want a spare system, you can buy a full Core 2 Duo system for like $40.

That old hardware isn't worth the time of day.

 

[skipsneeky2]

I had a Socket 754 Clawhammer 3700+. That thing was a beast. It was my last single core chip. I don't believe the board was SiS chipset. Seems like SiS was on lower end boards. Want to say VIA VIA K8M800 or nForce 4.

This is more or less my first hands on with the older AMD cpus,outside of a non working 450mhz AMD rig i had bought for $5 that i got simply for the pc133 ram.Ended up being a fully functional rig after adjusting a jumper someone incorrectly put on the mobo during the build.Had looked like someone built the rig,couldn't get it to post and put it into the closet till 2005 when i bought it at a second hand store.

The rig i needed the pc133 for was for a old P4 1.8ghz based HP Vectra VL420.That ended up being my first official computer.

 

[dave_the_nerd]

Interesting. I don't think I would go any older than Core2, to be honest. But you already have the kit, so go nuts, put Win98se on a 40GB IDE HDD.

Really? Athlons had similar performance per core (and better performance-per-clock) than many of the Atom derivatives and tiny-core APUs you collect. Maybe you should go retro - might be fun.

 

[DrMrLordX]

+1 for s754. I loved my old Chaintech VNF3-250 + Sempron 2800+ (Palermo) back in the day. OCed that sucker to 2.3 GHz with the stock HSF. wewt.