Socket 7 cooler

[thecoolnessrune]

These are the standard heatsinks / fans that come with socket 7 processors. Im adapting an old OEM computer for 24/7 work at 100% and it needs a cooler stronger than that. After running even 50% for more then a few minutes the heatsink becomes too hot to touch. Is there anything beefier than this that can fit on the Socket 7 bracket without modifying the bracket? It looks like Socket 7 and Socket A coolers are almost identical, however Socket A coolers im sure were designed around lidless processors. Please, can anyone help me?

 

[GalvanizedYankee]

The best socket A cooler and it's upwardly AMD capable, is the ThermalRight SI-97A.

I have bought from these guys several times. They are OK by me. Look at the $16 job.
http://www.buyextras.com/ >CPU coolers

Give this 48hours and the good stuff will get posted.

...Galvanized

 

[VinDSL]

I used to have a bunch of Socket7 computers, running 24/7/365, back in the BBS days -- and had real good luck with Cooler Master HSFs -- something like this.

Really, the only difference between HSFs in those days was the fan bearing (made a huge difference in lifespan) and the height of the sink. The sinks started off being really short, and eventually grew to the size of the one pictured above.

Anyway, IMHO, that's all you'll really need -- or something like them. I suggest buying one to use, and one for a backup. My experience has been, the fans will only last about a year or so, running 'em 24/7/365, despite what the manufacturers claim... dust and heat kill them!

 

[imported_Sincity]

I bought this recently for a Duron 1.6. Nice and cool. I actually removed the cage type cooler and popped a 80mm fan in it's place.

 

[Zepper]

Many Socket-A HSFs should work. I have a couple of Speeze WhisperRock HSFs here, one used, one new. They are 2-3/8x2-3/8" at the base and tapers up to 3-1/8x3-1/4" at the top with an 80x80x25mm fan. Should easily keep any Sock-7 processor cool as it's a big hunk of Aluminum. There is no copper core like lots of Sock-A heat sinks used to contact the open die, so your heat spreader will get full contact with the base. I could probably do the used one for about $10. shipped and the new one for $10. plus shipping. LMK. You just need to be sure that there are no large caps really tight to the CPU socket, but this HSF can fit into pretty tight spaces as the sides are tapered. You'll probably want the most clearance around the mounting clips so if you accidentally slip, you won't hurt anything.

.bh.

 

[Jeff7]

Out of curiosity, what processor is this for?

 

[996GT2]

Thermalright SI-97A or Zalman CNPS6000 should be good

 

[Zepper]

Socket 7 is for the original Pentium and the AMD K5/K6/K6-2/K6-3. The OP will have to respond with the actual speed.

.bh.

 

[thecoolnessrune]

Hey again guys, sorry about the long wait. I wrote this post last thing last night and have been in school. I'm on lunch break for now So now to help you all help me

1. The processor is a Socket 7 AMD K6-2 350Mhz processor. (2.2V Vcore, Ceramic with an IHS)

2. There are no caps close to the socket

3. My main concern was unlike Socket A mobos that had plastic brackets, the only thing this motherboard has is that metal retension mechanism. And of course, with tracers hovering all over the CPU area, I cant effectively put a bracket on it. I was unsure whether the SI-97A would be too much weight to put on the retension mechanism and still make effective contact with the core.

4. @ Zepper: I thank you for the offer, and I would like to keep you available. My mom tends to be a little sketchy about paying individual people for products. However, that WhisperRock sounds like a good idea as I can use a quieter fan. It will take me a while, but perhaps I'll be able to do business with you (17 year old home schooled kid, I dont have heatware or anything).

Lastly, I would like to thank all who have contributed so far and apologise for the delay. By all means, I would be happy to answer more questions for you. For now, I have to return to school. Feel free to post recommendations or questions.

 

[GalvanizedYankee]

Zepper is an honest trader. He won't misrepresent what he has to sell and has
been involved in comp repair for 25 years. Kinda grumpy but a good guy none the less. ;


...Galvanized

 

[Zepper]

Hey Coolness,

Here's how a socket-7 processor should look w/o a Heatsink/fan unit - just a chip setting in a plastic socket held in by the locking lever along the bottom side of the socket.

The plastic nibs on the socket itself (one center right, the other center left) in that pic are what a typical HSF hooks to. Some HSFs use the Z-shaped spring wire that hooks under the offset tabs above and below the normal, but you won't use that wire for a more typical HSF - those come with cheapie OEM HSFs.

Here's are some pics of a WhisperRock. You can see that it comes with its own clip that fits over those nubs on both sides of the socket.

Unless yours is something I've never seen before, then the WhisperRock would fit.

.bh.

 

[RallyMaster]

Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune
Hey again guys, sorry about the long wait. I wrote this post last thing last night and have been in school. I'm on lunch break for now So now to help you all help me

1. The processor is a Socket 7 AMD K6-2 350Mhz processor. (2.2V Vcore, Ceramic with an IHS)

I am running the same processor in my Compaq machine and it's passive. Only has a duct going into the PSU. You should be fine with a stock cooler.

 

[VinDSL]

Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune
Im adapting an old OEM computer for 24/7 work at 100%...

Originally posted by: RallyMaster
You should be fine with a stock cooler...

I used a Socket7 as a number cruncher, 100% CPU, 24/7/365, for over 2 years, and that thing ran H-O-T! I didn't even have it in a case! The M/B was laying on the workbench with a 10" table fan blowing across it. The program I was running was trying to line up the 26 letters of the (English) alphabet, in their correct order, by random chance (yes, I know there is no such thing as true randomness in computers). I think I lost interest in the project at around 8,000,000,000,000 (8 trillion) tries. The closest it ever came was 12 letters, if I remember correctly.

Anyway, if this guy is running a proggie like that, I don't think a stock cooler is going to do the job. I suppose it would depend on how warm the room is...

 

[SparkyJJO]

I've put an old socket A cooler on a socket 7 CPU before, that thing was like 10 times larger than the old heatsink It cooled really well too even with the fan undervolted to 5 volts - I didn't like that whine that those old stock AMD coolers had and the thing was overkill anyway

 

[thecoolnessrune]

Thank you all once again! You all are helping me so much and it really makes me feel kinda special Once again, now I have to get off so I'm makign another night post :laugh:

1. Zepper, I'm afraid the buying from you is a no go. No matter what, mom simply wont agree to buy. Im dreadfully sorry, and just know the decision not to wasn't mine

2. Looking closely at images, I believe the SI-97A will work. I just need to take measurements to see if it would fit.

3. Thats the main problem. This room gets HOT. 3 computers, (2 Pentium 4s, this AMD, and soon to be a Celeron 1.2) in a 10x10 room with one air conditioning vent. 80-85 degrees is not uncommon in here this summer (Heck, its was 110 outside yesterday).

Once again, thanks to everyone for your help. Research has told me so far that my best choices would be an SI-97A if I can manage it, or a Whisper Rock if the SI-97A wont fit. Feel free to post more, this has helped me so much.

 

[GalvanizedYankee]

So Mom is afraid :laugh: She's a Mom and that's part of her job.

coolness, I've had stuff given to me, just as I have given doo-dads away. I would trust
Zepper in a heart beat to cross ship for cash. Just as he would trust me. You do have to
be careful. That's just a fact of life.

I hope the SI-97A works out for you because it is upwardly compatable for AMD chips
and I think the ThermalRight P4 kit can have it mount to P4 478 CPUs. So if your working
with any of the older stuff, you will always have one VG heat sink.


...Galvanized

 

[Zepper]

Well at least Newegg and others still carry the all aluminum WhisperRock under the Masscool or Spire name. I guess the Speeze brand (an amalgam of "speed" and "breeze") didn't cut it with the American consumer. It would get you within a few degrees of the SI-97 at less than half the price.

So sad about your mom - she needs to get out more.. No different than buying from a garage sale - you don't really know if those are fencing operations or not.

I could send the HSF and let you pay on approval - then the moral fiber test is in your court. I could probably even find my receipt for them if needed - no pressure...

.bh.

 

[VinDSL]

Hahaha! You guys should take the hint, and quit messing with kids...

That's the last great taboo in America!

 

[GalvanizedYankee]

As a man of integrity, my behavior will not be modified by the needs of others. The need
to be politically correct, sense of shame or self pity

I know very little...But I do know my motives


...Galvanized

 

[thecoolnessrune]

Originally posted by: Zepper
Well at least Newegg and others still carry the all aluminum WhisperRock under the Masscool or Spire name. I guess the Speeze brand (an amalgam of "speed" and "breeze") didn't cut it with the American consumer. It would get you within a few degrees of the SI-97 at less than half the price.

So sad about your mom - she needs to get out more.. No different than buying from a garage sale - you don't really know if those are fencing operations or not.

I could send the HSF and let you pay on approval - then the moral fiber test is in your court. I could probably even find my receipt for them if needed - no pressure...

.bh.

Her reply........ "No, no no no no.... If he sends that to you, you will send it straight back to him and pay the shipping out of your own pocket"

Yeah so that was the end of that.... Thanks for trying Zepper, I really appreciate it, but mom (actually my grandmother i should say) won't have it XD (shes kinda been against this whole upgrade thing from the beginning ) Shes not one to give reasons for her answers..... i just have to accept it

So I guess its off trying to buy one from a reputable site. And here I really wanted the money savings :laugh: Sorry though Zepper. At least I know your cool even if my mom doesn't think so

 

[SparkyJJO]

If it is your money, why does it matter that much to her what you do with it?

 

[thecoolnessrune]

Shes very..... protective :laugh: Sometimes she doesn't make sense. Fact is though, I just have to follow whatever she says im afraid

 

[VinDSL]

Heh! Smart woman, your Grandma! Listen to her...