Socket 1366 MBs got REALLY fragil LGA/socket?

[TheHolyLancer]

*note* I've also posted this in Tom's forums and Overclockerclub. I wanted to get a as large sample of information as possible. *note*

Hi guys, I'm an owner of an evga x58 (non classified, non LE) and around the evga forums there are cries of the socket / LGA / the thing that holds the CPU being really fragile, and that some people have reported easily bent pins, or even some extreme cases where the CPU was almost "soldered" to the pins and pulled one or two out of the socket when they tried to do a C0 -> D0 upgrade.

I would like to know, with links to the forums, of any other people with other brands of 1366 MB having issue with the socket, with pins bent upon receiving, or something went awry when upgrading, or other random issues with the socket.


I personally haven't had this issue as I ordered my setup and paid them extra 10 dollars for a D0 920, and got a 4 Ghz OC out of the thing very easy, and I don't plan on upgrading anytime soon (maybe when 8 cores come out and price drops or something, but given the 1366 is destined for the expensive stuff with rumors of 920 getting axed, don't that that's gona happen).

So anyone got these info? Please don't slander on a brand or something based on some 1 year old experience with some of their other lines of product, only the LGA 1366 stuff please, and links to posts in forums or even better, admin admissions of issues would be best.

Thanks

 

[daw123]

Nope, as far as I'm aware, I haven't had any issues with my GA-EX58-Extreme.

I did have a couple of bent pins in the socket on my GA-X48T-DQ6 though.

 

[TheHolyLancer]

Hmm, do you frequent Gigabyte forums? I mean this hasn't happened to me at all and mine rig is up and running fine, but that doesn't mean others isn't having this issue.

Also, are bent/damage/nuked pins easy on the LGA platform?

 

[daw123]

No, I don't frequent the Gigabyte forums.

It could be a common problem, but its just that I haven't experienced it personally on my X58 MB.

I'm sure others will chime in if this has happened to them.

Have you tried googling it to find out?

 

[Zap]

The LGA sockets are kind of fragile - just go to any Fry's Electronics and look at the motherboards they have on display. Every single one of them have bent down pins, from people touching them with their fingers. That's why every LGA motherboard comes with the plastic cover over the socket, and why every motherboard manufacturer requires that plastic cover to be on the board when RMA'd.

One brand of motherboard is no different than another brand in this respect.

With that being said, IMO a damaged LGA socket is almost always caused by the user.

 

[TheHolyLancer]

Well, the stores in canada here that I know of don't have display boards, and one store that i brought my PSU and case from (canadacomputers Scarborough store) checked another customer's MB LGA socket before he left the store for him, but that's only after he paid, not sure if he requested it or if they checked it since they have to accept a return. Sad that in order to skip the PST in canada you have to buy all the way from BC since no good computer stores with good prices other than NCIX and canadacomputers up here in the north, tigerfirect and newegg.ca is just bs in terms of price or entry tax (that you can avoid with some opened merchandise prior to the border and a PO/shipping warehouse)

 

[TheHolyLancer]

Bump,

are no one else on other MBs having issues? I mean as much as user caused damage a concern, is evga not helping by using a different design (or are they all made by foxconn or some OEM) or is the layout of the boards to cluttered and causing it?

 

[rip]

LOL, I remember my first LGA build after years of AMD. I bent a pin or two; I don't even remember how. I do remember thinking "man, what a crappy design". I think Zap nailed it: fingers - fingers that touch the pins, fingers that drop the chip the wrong way at the critical moment. Not much hope after bent pins.

 

[nitromullet]

Originally posted by: Zap
With that being said, IMO a damaged LGA socket is almost always caused by the user.

Agreed. I've seen people in line at the Fry's return counter with bent pin motherboards. Fry's will take back almost anything for any reason, but I think they really put their foot down on bent pin motherboards because it is almost always user error.

Originally posted by: rip
LOL, I remember my first LGA build after years of AMD. I bent a pin or two; I don't even remember how. I do remember thinking "man, what a crappy design". I think Zap nailed it: fingers - fingers that touch the pins, fingers that drop the chip the wrong way at the critical moment. Not much hope after bent pins.

Yep. There is no reason to touch the pins. I agree that it is somewhat of a crappy design, but moving the pins from the cpu to motherboard wasn't a bad idea. X58 boards aside, generally motherboards are a cheaper component than the cpu so I'd rather have to replace the motherboard because I goofed up then the cpu.

 

[arkcom]

Originally posted by: rip
LOL, I remember my first LGA build after years of AMD. I bent a pin or two; I don't even remember how. I do remember thinking "man, what a crappy design". I think Zap nailed it: fingers - fingers that touch the pins, fingers that drop the chip the wrong way at the critical moment. Not much hope after bent pins.

I've actually fixed an x58 motherboard with bent pins. Not too hard with a needle and bright light.

 

[Zap]

Originally posted by: nitromullet
I agree that it is somewhat of a crappy design, but moving the pins from the cpu to motherboard wasn't a bad idea. X58 boards aside, generally motherboards are a cheaper component than the cpu so I'd rather have to replace the motherboard because I goofed up then the cpu.

Even with X58 boards, would you rather replace a $300 board or $1000 CPU?

The other thing with LGA 1366 in particular is that it is larger than LGA 775, so easier to get an errant finger in there (or cable, or screwdriver).