socialism and communism

asabour

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please tell me the difference. Try to explain it in a simple manner if possible, thanks.
 

Dragnov

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Socialism -- If you have 2 cows, you give one to your neighbor.

Communism -- If you have 2 cows, you give them to the government; and the government gives you some milk.
 

SagaLore

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Originally posted by: Gr1mL0cK
Socialism -- If you have 2 cows, you give one to your neighbor.

Communism -- If you have 2 cows, you give them to the government; and the government gives you some milk.

Wow, I really like that definition. :)
 

Dragnov

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Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: Gr1mL0cK
Socialism -- If you have 2 cows, you give one to your neighbor.

Communism -- If you have 2 cows, you give them to the government; and the government gives you some milk.

Wow, I really like that definition. :)

Never heard of the cow-isms? :)

I don't take credit for it obviously.
 

Booster

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Originally posted by: asabour
please tell me the difference. Try to explain it in a simple manner if possible, thanks.

Socialism is not a perfect, temporary social system, involving the use of money and some elements of private property. Communism was a mythical, perfect state of the society, the whole thing socialism was ever shooting and working for - the so-called 'bright future', where money is abolished as unnecessary, and life goes by the rule 'to each according to one's needs, from each according to one's abilities'.
 

SagaLore

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Capitalism -- You get to keep the 2 cows you earned.

Liberalism -- You get to take care of your 2 cows, but the government gets all of the milk and eventually takes a cow, but by the time it makes it to someone less fortunate it's just hamburger.
 

Ferocious

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Communism lends itself to easy corruption and is not a good form of government.

Moderate socialism mixed with capitalism is needed in a society where a strong middle class is desired......like in the USA since the FDR days.

Pure capitalism also lends itself to easy corruption and a diminished and weakened middle class.
 

GasX

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Originally posted by: Ferocious
Communism lends itself to easy corruption and is not a good form of government.
Its failings go WAY beyond potential for corruption
Moderate socialism mixed with capitalism is needed in a society where a strong middle class is desired......like in the USA since the FDR days.
Huh? What sociology professor convinced you of this clap trap?
Pure capitalism also lends itself to easy corruption and a diminished and weakened middle class.
Same sociology professor or was it some webelos den mother with a Masters in Fine Arts?

 

Yax

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Conservatism is when you get pissed that someone else actually has a different view than the conservative Republican on the radio that's been preaching to you all these years.
 

Bulk Beef

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Originally posted by: cheapbidder01
Conservatism is when you get pissed that someone else actually has a different view than the conservative Republican on the radio that's been preaching to you all these years.
Pure genius.
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What does that have to do with cattle?
 

TheBoyBlunder

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Originally posted by: SagaLore
Capitalism -- You get to keep the 2 cows you earned.

Liberalism -- You get to take care of your 2 cows, but the government gets all of the milk and eventually takes a cow, but by the time it makes it to someone less fortunate it's just hamburger.

Capitalism - (in its unaltered form) You get to keep the 2 cows you earned until someone steals them.
 

damiano

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Originally posted by: TheBoyBlunder
Originally posted by: SagaLore
Capitalism -- You get to keep the 2 cows you earned.

Liberalism -- You get to take care of your 2 cows, but the government gets all of the milk and eventually takes a cow, but by the time it makes it to someone less fortunate it's just hamburger.

Capitalism - (in its unaltered form) You get to keep the 2 cows you earned until someone steals them.

capitalism - you make them mate... get a loan on the future baby to be born ( and invent that a potential second will be born
use the money of the loan to buy a beach house
sell milk of the cows before it is produced
get in debts
steal some of the money for private expenses
get sued by investors
finish in jail (see martha :))
 

SagaLore

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Originally posted by: cheapbidder01
Conservatism is when you get pissed that someone else actually has a different view than the conservative Republican on the radio that's been preaching to you all these years.

Liberalism is when you have a seizure of hatred and spite everytime you hear the name Rush Limbaugh.
 

GasX

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Originally posted by: cheapbidder01
Conservatism is when you get pissed that someone else actually has a different view than the conservative Republican on the radio that's been preaching to you all these years.

Conservatism is when you feel sorry for the naive fools that feel Al Gore has anything worthwhile to say and still hold onto the notion that he should be our leader...
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: Ferocious
Communism lends itself to easy corruption and is not a good form of government.

Moderate socialism mixed with capitalism is needed in a society where a strong middle class is desired......like in the USA since the FDR days.

Pure capitalism also lends itself to easy corruption and a diminished and weakened middle class.

last i checked the middle class started in during at the beginning of the industrial revolution with no socialism or communism around.
 

SagaLore

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Originally posted by: Mwilding
Originally posted by: cheapbidder01
Conservatism is when you get pissed that someone else actually has a different view than the conservative Republican on the radio that's been preaching to you all these years.

Conservatism is when you feel sorry for the naive fools that feel Al Gore has anything worthwhile to say and still hold onto the notion that he should be our leader...

Bleh, they think he IS our leader, and that Bush didn't win regardless of how many recounts prove it, and that Tom Daschle is God.
 

XZeroII

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Originally posted by: cheapbidder01
Conservatism is when you get pissed that someone else actually has a different view than the conservative Republican on the radio that's been preaching to you all these years.

Actually, conservatism is where you do your own thing. Liberalism is where you get ticked off at someone else who has a different view that your own. A friend of mine said it very nicely. He used to be a liberal, then changed and is now a mild conservative. He said, "Conservatives just sit around absorbing what is going on around them. They act logically and quietly. Liberals act like teenagers. They look at easy answers and every time they see something they don't like, they open their big mouths and have to start criticizing (like teenagers)." Not a direct quote, but the best I could remember. I think it fits pretty well.
 

XZeroII

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and I like the cow thing for explaining socialism/communism. That's awesome. I may have to use that sometime.
 

Yax

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Originally posted by: sward666
Originally posted by: cheapbidder01
Conservatism is when you get pissed that someone else actually has a different view than the conservative Republican on the radio that's been preaching to you all these years.
Pure genius.
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What does that have to do with cattle?

Duh! You are the cattle.
 

SagaLore

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Originally posted by: XZeroII
Originally posted by: cheapbidder01
Conservatism is when you get pissed that someone else actually has a different view than the conservative Republican on the radio that's been preaching to you all these years.

Actually, conservatism is where you do your own thing. Liberalism is where you get ticked off at someone else who has a different view that your own. A friend of mine said it very nicely. He used to be a liberal, then changed and is now a mild conservative. He said, "Conservatives just sit around absorbing what is going on around them. They act logically and quietly. Liberals act like teenagers. They look at easy answers and every time they see something they don't like, they open their big mouths and have to start criticizing (like teenagers)." Not a direct quote, but the best I could remember. I think it fits pretty well.

That's a nice way of putting it. So basically if you grow up and mature, you're a conservative. If you remain a childish spoiled brat, you stay a Liberal. Sounds good to me. :light:
 

Bulk Beef

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Originally posted by: cheapbidder01
Originally posted by: sward666
Originally posted by: cheapbidder01
Conservatism is when you get pissed that someone else actually has a different view than the conservative Republican on the radio that's been preaching to you all these years.
Pure genius.
rolleye.gif
What does that have to do with cattle?

Duh! You are the cattle.
Not true. Hagbard keeps telling me I'm a sheep.

 

ScottyB

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Originally posted by: sward666
Originally posted by: cheapbidder01
Originally posted by: sward666
Originally posted by: cheapbidder01
Conservatism is when you get pissed that someone else actually has a different view than the conservative Republican on the radio that's been preaching to you all these years.
Pure genius.
rolleye.gif
What does that have to do with cattle?

Duh! You are the cattle.
Not true. Hagbard keeps telling me I'm a sheep.

Actually you are a cross between the two but we have to keep it on the down low from Bush so he doesn't execute us. Shhhhhhh. :p
 

Yax

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Originally posted by: ScottyB
Originally posted by: sward666
Originally posted by: cheapbidder01
Originally posted by: sward666
Originally posted by: cheapbidder01
Conservatism is when you get pissed that someone else actually has a different view than the conservative Republican on the radio that's been preaching to you all these years.
Pure genius.
rolleye.gif
What does that have to do with cattle?

Duh! You are the cattle.
Not true. Hagbard keeps telling me I'm a sheep.

Actually you are a cross between the two but we have to keep it on the down low from Bush so he doesn't execute us. Shhhhhhh. :p

And at next election, all the sheep-cattles will vote for Bush again simply because he carries the Republican branding iron.
 

idNut

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Originally posted by: Gr1mL0cK
Socialism -- If you have 2 cows, you give one to your neighbor.

Communism -- If you have 2 cows, you give them to the government; and the government gives you some milk.

My Social Studies teacher has that poster.