Soccer question: why don't they do away with this offside rule?

jinduy

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i think it's silly that the offense can't kick the ball deep past their defenders to do something like a 'hail mary' and are bound by the defenders in front of them and not the field/goal.
 

Skacer

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You can still do hail marys. It only matters where the offense is when the ball is kicked. So if you kick it past their defensive line and your offense outruns them, its a fair play. This adds strategy instead of cherry picking.
 

sandorski

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Soccer's fine the way it is. Other than the players who dive and play dying just to get favorable calls.
 
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Originally posted by: z0mb13
they did not have the offside rule back then, goals were too easy to make

Umm... wouldn't an 8-7 game be more fun than a 0-0 game? I vote yes.
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: z0mb13
they did not have the offside rule back then, goals were too easy to make

Umm... wouldn't an 8-7 game be more fun than a 0-0 game? I vote yes.

Not necessarily. Bigger numbers are meaningless.
 
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Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: z0mb13
they did not have the offside rule back then, goals were too easy to make

Umm... wouldn't an 8-7 game be more fun than a 0-0 game? I vote yes.

Not necessarily. Bigger numbers are meaningless.

Watching a game where nobody scores is boring as hell. I hate soccer snobs who look at a 0-0 game and think the bored among them are "uneducated in the ways of the beautiful game" :roll:

Scoreless ties are boring. For that matter, ties are boring. Even the NHL was able to figure that one out.

 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: z0mb13
they did not have the offside rule back then, goals were too easy to make

Umm... wouldn't an 8-7 game be more fun than a 0-0 game? I vote yes.

Not necessarily. Bigger numbers are meaningless.

Watching a game where nobody scores is boring as hell. I hate soccer snobs who look at a 0-0 game and think the bored among them are "uneducated in the ways of the beautiful game" :roll:

Scoreless ties are boring. For that matter, ties are boring. Even the NHL was able to figure that one out.

I disagree. If it makes me a snob to think all the excitement is in the play whether resulting in a goal or not, so be it. Many of the great plays are actually by the Goalie who prevents Goals from happening. :shrug;
 

rocadelpunk

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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: z0mb13
they did not have the offside rule back then, goals were too easy to make

Umm... wouldn't an 8-7 game be more fun than a 0-0 game? I vote yes.

Not necessarily. Bigger numbers are meaningless.

Watching a game where nobody scores is boring as hell. I hate soccer snobs who look at a 0-0 game and think the bored among them are "uneducated in the ways of the beautiful game" :roll:

Scoreless ties are boring. For that matter, ties are boring. Even the NHL was able to figure that one out.

would you be bored that a baseball game was 1-0 or celebrate a pitcher's no hitter/shutout?
 

Double Trouble

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I don't like the idea of a tie in any sport, so the ties in soccer have to go, but the off-sides rule should remain. It adds strategy to the game, and it adds an increased element of teamwork -- the defense has to work together to execute off-sides traps, and the offense has to use perfect timing and teamwork to shoot through the defense without being offsides.

If you remove the offsides rule, you'd basically increase the value of raw speed while decreasing the value of skill and teamwork.

I much prefer a 2-1 or 1-0 game to a 9-8 game. The game itself is fun to watch, not just the goals. In basketball, each basket is in itself essentially meaningless. Any given play, while exciting, doesn't mean anything in the grand scheme. In soccer, the flow of the game is what you watch, and a goal is the culmination of that effort, not just a meaningless event.
 

xSauronx

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Originally posted by: rocadelpunk
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: z0mb13
they did not have the offside rule back then, goals were too easy to make

Umm... wouldn't an 8-7 game be more fun than a 0-0 game? I vote yes.

Not necessarily. Bigger numbers are meaningless.

Watching a game where nobody scores is boring as hell. I hate soccer snobs who look at a 0-0 game and think the bored among them are "uneducated in the ways of the beautiful game" :roll:

Scoreless ties are boring. For that matter, ties are boring. Even the NHL was able to figure that one out.

would you be bored that a baseball game was 1-0 or celebrate a pitcher's no hitter/shutout?

personally i find soccer to be much more enjoyable to watch than basebal. ive *never* liked baseball
 
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Originally posted by: tagej
I don't like the idea of a tie in any sport, so the ties in soccer have to go, but the off-sides rule should remain. It adds strategy to the game, and it adds an increased element of teamwork -- the defense has to work together to execute off-sides traps, and the offense has to use perfect timing and teamwork to shoot through the defense without being offsides.

If you remove the offsides rule, you'd basically increase the value of raw speed while decreasing the value of skill and teamwork.

I much prefer a 2-1 or 1-0 game to a 9-8 game. The game itself is fun to watch, not just the goals. In basketball, each basket is in itself essentially meaningless. Any given play, while exciting, doesn't mean anything in the grand scheme. In soccer, the flow of the game is what you watch, and a goal is the culmination of that effort, not just a meaningless event.

:thumbsup:
 

ATLien247

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I think it would slow the game down even more though, because you'd keep one defender back to prevent cherry picking.
 

DangerAardvark

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It's just like any sport. When you're familiar with it and the players you have a vested interest in every back and forth exchange.
 

homercles337

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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: z0mb13
they did not have the offside rule back then, goals were too easy to make

Umm... wouldn't an 8-7 game be more fun than a 0-0 game? I vote yes.

Not necessarily. Bigger numbers are meaningless.

Watching a game where nobody scores is boring as hell. I hate soccer snobs who look at a 0-0 game and think the bored among them are "uneducated in the ways of the beautiful game" :roll:

Scoreless ties are boring. For that matter, ties are boring. Even the NHL was able to figure that one out.

Apparently you have never heard of the term "shots on goal." A game can have 0-0 with 20 shots on, thats not exciting? I expect as much from WhosUrDady. :roll:
 
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Soccer is perfect the way it is. I wasn't always a fan but the England vs. Portugal game from Euro 2004 changed that. That game was awesome!
 

spidey07

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It would fundamentally change the game for the worse if they did away with it.

Most all goal games have offsides, it prevents people from hanging around the goal waiting for a long pass.

Otherwise you'd have the defense all hunkered near the goal area and not midfield action/skill. Just defenses kicking to each other.
 

LS20

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Originally posted by: hypn0tik
Offside should stay. You'd have a cherry picking problem otherwise.

Henry anyone?

yup. hence offside is also present in hockey. if youve played school yard basketball you'd see the problem, too. after a while people just do baseball passes from one net to the other