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SoB: Daily Stats and Milstones - 04/24 - ORU's rate has DOUBLED! :Q

DannyBoy

DannyBoy

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Seventeen Or Bust Stats Report for 2003-04-24 22:18:32

Top 10 Teams: Total Production

Rank.........Team.........Total Work (cEMs)...Last Day's Work (cEMs)....Team Delta (cEMs)....Overtake (Days)
...1..TeamPrimeRib............183.203 T................1.184 T..............-35.494 T....................138
...2..Anandtech...............147.709 T................1.439 T................0.000 .....................
...3..TeamRetro...............121.760 T................1.126 T...............25.949 T.....................
...4..ORU.....................115.262 T................3.153 T...............32.446 T.....................18
...5..TeamTNT..................73.552 T..............462.501 G...............74.156 T.....................
...6..MajorGeeks...............48.826 T..............455.282 G...............98.883 T.....................
...7..Rechenkraft..............42.598 T..............306.275 G..............105.110 T.....................
...8..FreeDC...................42.434 T..............106.124 G..............105.275 T.....................
...9..Securiteinfo.............40.064 T..............313.615 G..............107.644 T.....................
..10..TeamBeOS.................39.002 T..............176.383 G..............108.706 T.....................



Top 10 Teams: Last Day's Rate

Rank.........Team.........Rate (cEMs/sec)....Team Delta (cEMs/sec)
...1..ORU.....................36.492 M..............-19.832 M
...2..Anandtech...............16.660 M................0.000
...3..TeamPrimeRib............13.703 M................2.957 M
...4..TeamRetro...............13.036 M................3.624 M
...5..TeamTNT..................5.353 M...............11.307 M
...6..MajorGeeks...............5.269 M...............11.391 M
...7..Securiteinfo.............3.630 M...............13.030 M
...8..Rechenkraft..............3.545 M...............13.115 M
...9..CampusHafnia.............2.439 M...............14.220 M
..10..TeamBeOS.................2.041 M...............14.619 M



Team AnandTech Member Stats

50 out of 145 members (34.5%) produced results in the last day

Rank........Member.........Total Work (cEMs)...Last Day's Work (cEMs)....Rate (cEMs/sec)....Overtake Place Above (Days)
...1..EvilWobbles...............12.308 T...............86.211 G.............997.817 K................Never
...2..amcdonald.................11.466 T..............247.538 G...............2.865 M.....................5
...3..FoBoT.....................11.287 T...............75.068 G.............868.848 K................Never
...4..Baldy18....................6.895 T...............92.411 G...............1.070 M...................253
...5..LyNx01.....................6.533 T................2.146 G..............24.841 K................Never
...6..Confused...................6.477 T...............95.736 G...............1.108 M............Today!
...7..kantana....................5.412 T...............16.429 G.............190.148 K................Never
...8..MereMortal.................4.639 T................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
...9..mordrid52..................4.610 T...............33.746 G.............390.582 K............Today!
..10..SeanD......................4.469 T...............24.613 G.............284.873 K................Never
..11..Electrode..................4.352 T...............67.579 G.............782.167 K.....................2
..12..SinfulWeeper...............4.208 T...............53.849 G.............623.253 K................Never
..13..sduguid....................4.005 T...............39.025 G.............451.679 K................Never
..14..Slatz......................3.574 T...............25.182 G.............291.453 K................Never
..15..Huntress...................3.318 T...............73.642 G.............852.333 K.....................5
..16..Actaeon....................3.277 T...............38.994 G.............451.321 K................Never
..17..CyberWire..................3.232 T................4.126 G..............47.758 K................Never
..18..Remy.......................3.094 T...............17.986 G.............208.170 K.....................9
..19..Zorg.......................2.475 T...............34.070 G.............394.327 K....................38
..20..winr.......................2.272 T...............30.072 G.............348.053 K................Never
..21..WX.........................1.990 T................5.902 G..............68.306 K................Never
..22..ThomasL....................1.933 T................7.560 G..............87.505 K....................33
..23..Tetsuo316..................1.905 T...............19.405 G.............224.595 K.....................2
..24..Woodie.....................1.677 T...............56.630 G.............655.437 K.....................6
..25..Chipster22.................1.577 T...............20.909 G.............241.997 K................Never
..26..TAGeoffS...................1.319 T................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
..27..soni.......................1.279 T...............28.769 G.............332.980 K.....................1
..28..SvenTheGoose...............1.194 T................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
..29..Torghn.....................1.163 T...............17.292 G.............200.135 K.....................1
..30..MrFiTTy....................1.151 T...............32.302 G.............373.862 K............Today!
..31..Paperboy...................1.084 T................1.150 G..............13.309 K................Never
..32..pmattson...................1.054 T...............19.900 G.............230.328 K.....................1
..33..sv2003.....................1.042 T...............47.663 G.............551.654 K............Today!
..34..bunker.....................1.019 T................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
..35..bobthedefiler............999.694 G................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
..36..debris...................986.799 G................1.455 G..............16.842 K.....................8
..37..HarvardAce...............963.704 G...............19.821 G.............229.404 K.....................1
..38..TADaaavo.................926.378 G................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
..39..TDK......................902.749 G..............413.775 M...............4.789 K....................57
..40..iostream9................838.767 G................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
..41..maverick.................829.060 G................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
..42..idgaf13..................806.926 G................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
..43..Gatsby...................764.335 G..............120.119 M...............1.390 K...................354
..44..gensheimer...............672.487 G................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
..45..Foobar...................636.449 G................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
..46..Ciber....................636.258 G................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
..47..PolloLoco................595.970 G...............16.070 G.............185.992 K.....................2
..48..cpatstone................514.857 G...............15.309 G.............177.190 K................Never
..49..got2beazn................443.041 G................1.701 G..............19.687 K................Never
..50..cjei.....................428.907 G................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
..51..Doobershu527.............408.472 G................3.819 G..............44.202 K.....................5
..52..adre.....................397.170 G................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
..53..richpoirier..............393.618 G..............195.465 M...............2.262 K....................18
..54..kpxpsychoboi.............393.339 G................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
..55..Ammocan..................367.201 G................4.817 G..............55.755 K.....................5
..56..PhoenixTNO...............352.743 G..............284.934 M...............3.298 K................Never
..57..Amok.....................345.828 G................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
..58..SubZ3r0..................343.660 G................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
..59..RaynorWolfcastle.........302.399 G................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
..60..Afterthought.............285.444 G...............27.297 G.............315.941 K............Today!
..61..TASato...................284.137 G................4.504 G..............52.134 K................Never
..62..nexus9...................260.634 G................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
..63..Moltres..................252.302 G................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
..64..CrazySaint...............227.044 G................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
..65..penquissciguy............204.208 G................7.603 G..............87.998 K.....................3
..66..tjw56....................186.113 G..............890.896 M..............10.311 K................Never
..67..Marxist1917..............172.359 G................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
..68..dnd31416.................169.080 G................9.781 M.............113.206 ...................335
..69..Khyron320................168.128 G................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
..70..Lemming..................162.106 G................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
..71..AlfredSka................157.841 G................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
..72..krakman..................134.996 G................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
..73..TitoTacos................132.157 G................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
..74..Genix....................130.434 G................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
..75..Mardeth..................124.020 G................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
..76..Ruckus...................120.590 G...............13.074 G.............151.323 K............Today!
..77..icepak...................119.259 G................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
..78..KenG6....................106.523 G................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
..79..dkappos...................98.226 G................1.234 G..............14.285 K.....................6
..80..GhettoFob.................87.829 G................3.152 G..............36.476 K.....................5
..81..vprime....................86.725 G................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
..82..moriakaice................79.383 G................1.711 G..............19.800 K.....................4
..83..gistech1978...............76.353 G................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
..84..Chokko....................74.712 G................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
..85..iskander..................73.961 G................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
..86..TAandy....................65.077 G................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
..87..Darkone...................53.842 G................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
..88..minendo...................43.791 G................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
..89..kinnoch...................39.262 G................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
..90..SKPhoton..................28.274 G................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
..91..jghoffay80................24.549 G................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
..92..martm.....................22.624 G................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
..93..fcastle...................19.884 G................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
..94..daniels25143..............17.267 G................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
..95..sciencewhiz...............15.398 G................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
..96..auto21568.................14.000 G................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
..97..Shinj1EVA.................12.500 G................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
..98..merlocka..................11.689 G................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
..99..InverseofNeo..............10.250 G................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
.100..Anony......................9.643 G................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
.101..mechBgon...................9.299 G................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
.102..inktomei...................9.000 G................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
.103..Deeko......................7.500 G................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
.104..Freez3L....................4.250 G................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
.105..TerryMathews...............3.750 G................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
.106..Kk4Jc......................3.250 G................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
.107..AgaBoogaBoo................2.250 G................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
.108..RaleighRedWolf.............2.250 G................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
.109..bgilden....................2.000 G................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
.110..EverCraft................499.998 M................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
.111..banditbuddhist...........499.982 M................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
.112..bob970...................469.419 M................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
.113..Gomer....................249.999 M................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
.114..coopmike.................249.995 M................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
.115..lilhrtbrknboi..............0.000 ................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
.116..benjuminj..................0.000 ................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
.117..gravK......................0.000 ................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
.118..aergaergerg................0.000 ................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
.119..ywb463.....................0.000 ................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
.120..adambert...................0.000 ................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
.121..jliechty...................0.000 ................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
.122..Wellred1917................0.000 ................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
.123..maoist1949.................0.000 ................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
.124..1917dave1949...............0.000 ................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
.125..wellred....................0.000 ................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
.126..gravity....................0.000 ................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
.127..dave1949...................0.000 ................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
.128..psychosonik................0.000 ................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
.129..DSato......................0.000 ................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
.130..Seagrass...................0.000 ................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
.131..Sato.......................0.000 ................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
.132..ifflbieuffwiu44r...........0.000 ................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
.133..red240.....................0.000 ................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
.134..reikienfei.................0.000 ................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
.135..Jshaped....................0.000 ................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
.136..Seagrave...................0.000 ................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
.137..Seagravy...................0.000 ................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
.138..DeezWho....................0.000 ................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
.139..Stas.......................0.000 ................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
.140..Stasbert...................0.000 ................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
.141..NB.........................0.000 ................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
.142..DigitalLimit...............0.000 ................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
.143..horse......................0.000 ................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
.144..pi314159...................0.000 ................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---
.145..Gravy......................0.000 ................0.000 ...............0.000 ...................---


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I cannot believe ORU's rate :Q 🙁

Dan 🙁
 
:Q

Thanks for the stats Dan.

While it will not even come close to doubling our teams rate. I just got a new P4 2.53GHz in about an hour or so ago. That will at least help out some more 🙂
 
Originally posted by: SinfulWeeper
:Q

Thanks for the stats MrFitty.

While it will not even come close to doubling our teams rate. I just got a new P4 2.53GHz in about an hour or so ago. That will at least help out some more 🙂
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Yea make sure its MrFitty or dan next time 😉 😛

Lol I think we need all the power we can get now! 🙁
 
Originally posted by: SinfulWeeper
Hehe, just a oversight. Kinda got used of typing Garry 😱.
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I dunno where he is tonight 😕

He will probably turn up in like 5 mins lol.

Dan
 
Thnx MrFitty

Macgyver (ORU) does appear to be running 257 instances of SoB ..

.. so we just need some more members .. er .. about 257 will do 😉
 
Originally posted by: Doobershu527
Thnx MrFitty

Macgyver (ORU) does appear to be running 257 instances of SoB ..

.. so we just need some more members .. er .. about 257 will do 😉
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How :Q :Q :Q :Q

He doesnt have 257 computers :Q

Surely :Q
 
i think its a fluke
they posted somewhere else that they had reinstalled or something and the spike was in some way "false" do to the way the stats calculate

if i can find the post later , i will link it. i wouldn't be to worried until we see if it is long term/sustained


here it is -> thread on Arstechnica

mathguy says...
Sorry I wasn't clear on this - Yes, I believe there is duplicate credit being given for the intermediate blocks that were processed by OberonBob before transferring to Macgyver (again until the Proth test finishes). Tests in progress are partially credited to both, but the only thing the database keeps is the "last report" time and progress amount. So, while the test is still pending, both users have a "last report" time for that test and so both are being given credit for the beginning of the test. The server cleans out all the intermediate block references to a test when the test finishes, but it doesn't do so on an intermediate report.

In my intermediate example above, OberonBob would have total production of 50 McEM on his plate which would not be removed until Macgyver finishes the test.

On various fora, there have been reports of mysterious drops in total production occurring sporadically, but after it happened, everything seemed to correspond with hand calculations, so everyone just shrugged and went on. I believe (but don't know for sure) that it's due to this issue...
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Originally posted by: FoBoT
i think its a fluke
they posted somewhere else that they had reinstalled or something and the spike was in some way "false" do to the way the stats calculate

if i can find the post later , i will link it. i wouldn't be to worried until we see if it is long term/sustained
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Hmmm 🙁

I hope its a "fluke" lol
 
Thanks for the stats!

My production will be going down a bit soon, as I am going to trade my Barton 2500 for a TbredB 1700 and some cash to go towards my Quad Sledgehammer fund. 😀
 
Originally posted by: FoBoT
it is, see edited post above
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But on the SOB site the stats for ORU's rate is now upto 60M!

Wtf :Q

If there was an error in the stats script I could understand, but on the sob site?

 
the same intermediate blocks are being counted for two people on the same team, so their work is doubled/tripled as many times as they change names (according to mathguy)

you could test it yourself

create 10 new accounts , then get a block, after each intermediate block change the block to a different account
after ten changes , you should have 10X normal production for that single PC (again, according to the way i understand mathguy's explaination)
 
Originally posted by: FoBoT
the same intermediate blocks are being counted for two people on the same team, so their work is doubled/tripled as many times as they change names (according to mathguy)

you could test it yourself

create 10 new accounts , then get a block, after each intermediate block change the block to a different account
after ten changes , you should have 10X normal production for that single PC (again, according to the way i understand mathguy's explaination)
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So ORU are effectively cheating?
 
Supposedly after the entire block is completed the work is credited to the final account and subtracted from the other accounts.

Thanks MrFiTTy.

Congrats to the MMs!😎
 
Here's the deal (I think - this is my best guess based on a number of things I have observed): the server database keeps track of intermediate blocks only based on "time of first contact", "time of last contact" and "progress made at time of last contact." So, when a client changes user ids in the middle of a Proth test, that Proth test is now present in the database lines of two different clients - one of them continues to report progress, the other one doesn't. The "new" user gets a huge rate spike because it appears that he did a whole pile of work between first contact and last contact, but this rate gradually declines as more time elapses. The "old" user's rate gradually declines as his original progress gets averaged over a longer and longer time. When a test is completed, the server credits the finisher with the whole Proth test and deletes all intermediate info associated with the test. At that point, the amount of progress associated originally with the "old" user (which was only an estimate anyway) is removed and his "total work" actually goes down.

This last bit (total work going down) has been observed several times, but after it was observed it always seemed that things corresponded correctly with hand-computed data. I suspect (but again am not certain) that this is the reason for that anomaly.

OberonBob has said that they (ORU) indeed did change the user ids on a number of clients, so I suspect strongly that the current (unbelievably high) rate is an artifact of that change. It *should* sort itself out as soon as those particular Proth tests are completed. If you look at macgyver's stats and OberonBob's stats, you will see the pattern I described above (OberonBob declining gradually, massive spike on macgyver's stats). Note that, if my guess is correct, you will see macgyver's spike getting smaller, not necessarily *on* the graph, but if you look at his graph several times, the peak will get smaller each time.

This is in fact happening, since I looked at his graph this morning and it was around 80M but now the spike is "all the way down to 40M" (boy does *that* sound weird).

Hope this helps...it's just an educated guess, but it does seem consistent with all known facts at the moment.
 
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I overlooked one important thing to get the new P4 online...
Memory... :|
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thanks mathguy 🙂
hope i didn't misquote you or anything

i don't think ORU did it on purpose/is trying to cheat

it is a bug with the system, probably wasn't forseen by the project guys

keep in mind, the interblock feature came fairly late in the development, in the "olden" days, you only got credit when you finished a block , they added the interblock counting thing after the basic system was in place. just a quirk, no biggy
 
I think you're exactly right, FoBoT. Didn't feel misquoted at all, just wanted to make sure everything was as clear as I could make it (given that I'm not really sure about any of this 😀 )
 
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