So why won't the LIBERAL DEMOCRAT Senate repeal the Patriot Acts?

[woolfe9998]

In response to the OP's partisan motivated query, the answer is pretty simple: there has never been enough votes because too many dems support it. However, this is the roll call from the last House vote taken:

http://politics.nytimes.com/congress/votes/112/house/1/376

54 Dems/196 reps vote "yes" to renew it.
122 Dems/31 reps vote "no."

The good news is that, contrary to the "they'll never give up power" argument, the no's have grown with each successive vote over the years. One thing is also pretty clear from this: if you really want the Act repealed, the dems are a much better bet.

 

[Jhhnn]

In response to the OP's partisan motivated query, the answer is pretty simple: there has never been enough votes because too many dems support it. However, this is the roll call from the last House vote taken:

http://politics.nytimes.com/congress/votes/112/house/1/376

54 Dems/196 reps vote "yes" to renew it.
122 Dems/31 reps vote "no."

The good news is that, contrary to the "they'll never give up power" argument, the no's have grown with each successive vote over the years. One thing is also pretty clear from this: if you really want the Act repealed, the dems are a much better bet.

They can't hear you, lost in their frothing partisan frenzy. The last time the act came up for renewal, Repubs threatened to filibuster any changes softening the act, taking an all or nothing approach. Right or wrong, Dems see some of it as valuable & necessary, so they knuckled under, renewed the whole thing.

The same voices whining about that would be wailing about Dems damaging national security had it gone the other way. No matter what Dems do, they'll be wrong in the blind eyes of the usual ravers.

 

[shadow9d9]

October 25, 2001, the Act passed the Senate by 98 to 1.

Democrats and Republicans passed this Act. Democrats and Republicans passed the second Act.

We've had a Liberal-Democrat Senate for 7 since since 2006. They could repeal the Patriot Act and Patriot Act II any time they want and end all this nonsense but for 7 years they have not.

So why hasn't the LIBERAL DEMOCRAT Senate (since 2006) repealed these? Wire tapping, spying, oppression, profiling, unwarranted detainment, etc. This was all BAD BAD BAD 6-7 years ago.

The Senate could also pass a law forbidding the President from any wiretapping of any kind if it really bothered them. They have all the REAL power, not the President.

If fact, they voted to re-up the Patriot Act and passed the Patriot Act II.

What happened?

I thought they were going to FIX THIS and protect our freedoms?

Democrats are middle/right, not "liberal."

Besides, they never had the 60 votes necessary... At most there were only 59 democrats in the senate and then one of them died.

 

[IronWing]

We'd have to elect a liberal Senate to find out.

 

[Zorkorist]

There isn't anything liberal about Obama's position.

It's socialist and communist.

-John

 

[Zorkorist]

They can't hear you, lost in their frothing partisan frenzy. The last time the act came up for renewal, Repubs threatened to filibuster any changes softening the act, taking an all or nothing approach. Right or wrong, Dems see some of it as valuable & necessary, so they knuckled under, renewed the whole thing.

The same voices whining about that would be wailing about Dems damaging national security had it gone the other way. No matter what Dems do, they'll be wrong in the blind eyes of the usual ravers.

Jhmm will remind us of our mistakes, in his eyes.

-John

 

[sm625]

The patriot act and other unconstitutional legislation like it are a product of the real government. The liberals and the conservatives, the democrats and the republicans... none of those words have any bearing on who or what actually governs this country. But if you look deeply into how bills like the patriot act are birthed and nurtured from start to finish, you can see exactly the true conduits of power.

 

[Emos]

It's socialist and communist.

The 1950s called, they want their boogeyman back!

 

[jman19]

Easy

1) Government is loathe to give up power
2) Democrats are not actually liberals

 

[Matt1970]

Just like the evil Bush tax cuts, the Democrats loved calling Bush the worst President in American History for, Democrats turned around and voted to make permanent.

 

[FerrelGeek]

What are the chances that it would get through a heavily-Republican dominated HOR? I think that a repeal of the Patriot Act would go over about as well as the many repeated repeals of the Affordable Care Act that the House has repeatedly passed and sent over to the Senate. My guess is that the Senate doesn't want to waste its time unlike the House.

Oh yes, the senate is a model of productivity. Get real.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

They can't hear you, lost in their frothing partisan frenzy. The last time the act came up for renewal, Repubs threatened to filibuster any changes softening the act, taking an all or nothing approach. Right or wrong, Dems see some of it as valuable & necessary, so they knuckled under, renewed the whole thing.

The same voices whining about that would be wailing about Dems damaging national security had it gone the other way. No matter what Dems do, they'll be wrong in the blind eyes of the usual ravers.

I believed that was much like your defense of the dems in not investigating Iraq. That's why obamacare never passed.