So why doesnt the RIAA go after those that d/l songs from Newsgroups?

[JEDI]

or do they only go after the uploaders? (those that share the music)

 

[jpeyton]

They want to go after users from the largest, most mainstream audience. They want to get the maximum effect for their legal fees, because RIAA knows it is impossible for them to prosecute everyone who downloads music illegally.

So they go after popular mainstream programs first, to scare J6P college students sitting in their dorm rooms.

 

[Anubis]

FIRST RULE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[gamefreakgcb]

I wonder about this also.

 

[gamefreakgcb]

I wonder about this also.

 

[Nitemare]

shhh.....

 

[BKLounger]

i had always heard that the reason they don't go after newsgroups is because they typically go after people who are sharing the music not the people downloading it. So torrent and kazaa were always easier to grab people since almost everyone is uploading on those items.

 

[SunnyD]

Originally posted by: BKLounger
because they typically go after people who are sharing the music not the people downloading it

Bingo, we have a winner. :thumbsup:

 

[BrokenVisage]

I don't know about you, but the only things I download from newsgroups are "articles". If the RIAA wants to get into the logistics of what articles could be construed as copyrighted music and movies then they'll be opening up a can of worms I don't think *they* want any part of. And yes, the fact that you aren't "sharing" what you download like with torrents and P2P helps.

 

[amicold]

Dude, seriously....first rule!

 

[umbrella39]

How would the RIAA go after downloaders in Usenet in the first place? Not sure about the logistics of something like that. Uploaders yes, but how would they even begin to know who is downloaded binaries unless you replied to a post saying, "Hey could you post PAR files with that, some of the links are borked"? Nah, I think the newsgroups are safe from the RIAA in the past, now, and in the future.

 

[Aikouka]

Shh! I'm "reading the news."

 

[JRich]

Second rule: Refer to the first rule.

 

[ahurtt]

What will happen with newsgroups is that the RIAA will try to start holding the ISP's responsible for removing copyrighted material posted on their newsgroup servers kinda like YouTube has to remove copyrighted video people may upload there. Net result will be that some ISP's will just say "F - it, it's not worth the hassle" and shutdown their newsgroup servers.

 

[sdifox]

Originally posted by: JEDI
or do they only go after the uploaders? (those that share the music)

they can't spell newsgroup?

 

[sdifox]

Originally posted by: BKLounger
i had always heard that the reason they don't go after newsgroups is because they typically go after people who are sharing the music not the people downloading it. So torrent and kazaa were always easier to grab people since almost everyone is uploading on those items.

err, someone had to post them on the ng first you know.

 

[mrSHEiK124]

Augh........the first rule of Usenet IS....

 

[manowar821]

EDIT: THANKS!

 

[ahurtt]

Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124
Augh........the first rule of Usenet IS....

Come on man, do you REALLY think they don't know about Usenet? The reason why they don't go after people who download from Usenet newsgroups is because logistically and realistically they just can't. They can get those who post the material. . .maybe, but not as easily as users of P2P programs like BitTorrent. . .but how are they going to find out who downloads from the newsgroup server?

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: ahurtt
What will happen with newsgroups is that the RIAA will try to start holding the ISP's responsible for removing copyrighted material posted on their newsgroup servers kinda like YouTube has to remove copyrighted video people may upload there. Net result will be that some ISP's will just say "F - it, it's not worth the hassle" and shutdown their newsgroup servers.

No, they will probably just start uploading worthless garbage like they did with kazaa wayback when

 

[skace]

People can anonymously post to newsgroups because of the way the technology works. Most download will be completely anonymous by nature as well, it would be up to the ISP to log who is downloading what articles. But lets say it takes 5000 articles to create a single song, the ISP then has to log and validate 5000 articles per user per file. The RIAA will go after the ISP for including xyz news group, but people will get around that by going to another news group. Thus the ISPs will say that is impossible and the RIAA will say that maybe news group servers shouldn't allow for articles larger than a specific size. But then a file could just be comprised of more articles. In the end, I don't think it can be fought very well.

 

[Minjin]

The same reason they don't go after file servers in IRC...the vast majority of the population doesn't even know what it is. And a large percentage of people who do know about it, tried once, and gave up because its "too difficult."

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: SunnyD

Originally posted by: BKLounger
because they typically go after people who are sharing the music not the people downloading it

Bingo, we have a winner. :thumbsup:

but isn't someone uploading on the newsgroups too or how does that work?

it has to get there for people to download it, right?

 

[skace]

Originally posted by: pontifex
but isn't someone uploading on the newsgroups too or how does that work?

it has to get there for people to download it, right?

Depending on rules, some newsgroup servers will allow for anonymous uploads, some will require logon information, some will require a valid email address. Once the files are uploaded to 1 newsgroup server it then synchronizes with the others via a hierarchy. And once it is on your newsgroup server, you can download it direct from there.

 

[Anonemous]

How do you know the RIAA is not going after them? It's probably harder to track ppl dling but with all bullying RIAA does, they could 'theoretically' force the newsgroup providers to give up their 'records' even though the company says they don't keep track of your DLs.