So why didn't the iPhone 4 get Siri?

[openwheel]

Apple wants more of your money. Simple as that.

 

[TuxDave]

I listen to my messages the same exact way as I am talking on the phone, unless it's on speaker. But I've a feeling it's the proximity sensor that initiated Siri, so you don't have a choice, but to turn her off. And her getting my commands wrong is probably because my car isn't quiet enough.

But I think google voice is where it's at. It needs a trendy name too like, Stan or something. Then it would kind of work if I said "Stan just raped Siri".

So I dug around and if you go to settings and Siri, there's a "Raise to Speak" option you can turn off (so that you can only initiate Siri via home button). Oddly enough, I have it enabled and no matter what I try, I can't get Siri to initiate by just picking up the phone and talking to it.

On a side note, when my friend installed Jelly Bean the first thing he asked it was "What's your name?" It of course decided to feed that into a Google search because it wasn't programmed to respond to that.

 

[TuxDave]

That is a good question. At the time I was testing it out I was probably speaking more into the bottom on the phone than the top. Now that I have a car mount for my phone I suppose I would be speaking more towards the top of the phone (it would be sitting in lansdcape orientation with the top of the phone pointed towards the driver's side).

You mention that you use Siri to read your text messages to you, do you also have Siri compose text messages in response? That is where most of my issues are. The resulting text I get is usually so far off as to not be usable. For placing calls I think Siri works quite well.

Yeah Siri and speakerphone uses the tiny hole on the top of the phone for input and so if you're holding it upside-down, you may inadvertantly be pointing the microphone towards the road noise.

I do use Siri for short text messages and Siri will read out loud what it thinks you want so you should be able to do it without looking at the screen. I would say success for me depends on simple phrases without names or anything. "I'll be home soon" "I'll be a little late". For those, it works just fine for me. For when it doesn't, I give up and just wait until later to do it.

But yeah, my top two uses for Siri is "Wake me up at X" and "Call my wife". Heh.

 

[WelshBloke]

That's HILARIOUS. When i use google voice with google navigation in my car, it works perfectly, even with lots of ambient noise with my windows rolled down. And i have a really shitty phone too (motorola triumph).

Google voice is absolutely rubbish for me in the car (or at all really).
I think it's really a YMMV situation on voice recognition rather than a Google Vs Apple situation.

 

[openwheel]

Google Voice is not the same as Google Now.

BTW Google Now is more accurate and intuitive than Siri at the moment.

 

[TuxDave]

Google Voice is not the same as Google Now.

BTW Google Now is more accurate and intuitive than Siri at the moment.

I think people are just accidentally using either one interchangably. Makes you wonder why they even bothered to rename it to a new product when everyone's so used to saying Google Voice.

 

[iahk]

What's worse is that it's not even Google Voice.. that's a totally different product. So basically, people are using terms incorrectly for 3 totally different products.

This is Google Voice: https://www.google.com/voice

People actually mean Voice Search. When you use that, it shows your results in the new Google Search. This was basically the original apps just redesigned and redone for Jelly Bean.

Google Now itself is the part which attempts to learn the information you want to see and show to you with the cards without you needing to request it.