So why blame America and Iraq for increase in terror across the world?

Braznor

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My country, India is one of the greatest victims of terror in modern times. Iraq is in the first place, followed by India.

India is second to Iraq when it comes to attack by Islamist groups.

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So why is the increase in terror held against the cause of Iraq war alone? So why blame America for it? India or Israel for that matter?

The ones terrorising us didn't come out of nowhere. There is a vast global terror network trying to destroy our civilizations. There is no use blaming the victims.

The war on terror is a real thing.
 

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Lifer
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What does India have to do with the Iraq war failing to stem terrorism around the world since 9/11?
 

Moonbeam

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What if the whole notion of blame is itself completely insane and nobody can really be blamed for anything? What if humanity is asleep and on auto pilot? What if all the finger pointing and all the rage at this and that is just mechanical, having its origin in an unconscious past? What if all your guild and sins have been forgiven because they aren't real? What if you started to cry and cry and cry and cry and then you started to laugh? What if instead of endless terror there is only joy? Wouldn't that piss you off?
 

Aimster

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Are you suggesting there are no Hindu terrorists inside India?

& I highly doubt the terrorists inside India are causing terror for the same reasons Osama did.
 

lozina

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Originally posted by: Braznor
My country, India is one of the greatest victims of terror in modern times. Iraq is in the first place, followed by India.

India is second to Iraq when it comes to attack by Islamist groups.

link


So why is the increase in terror held against the cause of Iraq war alone? So why blame America for it? India or Israel for that matter?

The ones terrorising us didn't come out of nowhere. There is a vast global terror network trying to destroy our civilizations. There is no use blaming the victims.

The war on terror is a real thing.

First of all, comparing India's terrorist incidents to Iraq's going by the numbers in the article is like comparing a station wagon's cargo capacity to an 18-wheeler.

Then you have to ask yourself why is there any surprise India suffers from some terrorist attacks, when their sworn enemy on their border is Pakistan, an Islamic country? And every attack carried out by pro-Pakistani elements from the Kashmir region are included in those terrorist figures. None of them are carried out by "Al Qaeda" which further illustrates the stupidity of comparing India's terrorist attacks to what's happened in America.

So jumping to the conclusion of some vast organized Islamic global terror conspiracy really requires the tin foil hat here.

It just boils down to politics of the region
 

beyoku

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Originally posted by: lozina
Originally posted by: Braznor
My country, India is one of the greatest victims of terror in modern times. Iraq is in the first place, followed by India.

India is second to Iraq when it comes to attack by Islamist groups.

link


So why is the increase in terror held against the cause of Iraq war alone? So why blame America for it? India or Israel for that matter?

The ones terrorising us didn't come out of nowhere. There is a vast global terror network trying to destroy our civilizations. There is no use blaming the victims.

The war on terror is a real thing.

First of all, comparing India's terrorist incidents to Iraq's going by the numbers in the article is like comparing a station wagon's cargo capacity to an 18-wheeler.

Then you have to ask yourself why is there any surprise India suffers from some terrorist attacks, when their sworn enemy on their border is Pakistan, an Islamic country? And every attack carried out by pro-Pakistani elements from the Kashmir region are included in those terrorist figures. None of them are carried out by "Al Qaeda" which further illustrates the stupidity of comparing India's terrorist attacks to what's happened in America.

So jumping to the conclusion of some vast organized Islamic global terror conspiracy really requires the tin foil hat here.

It just boils down to politics of the region

:thumbsup:
 

Genx87

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Why blame America? Because it is always the cool thing to do. Also convient when you need to raise money. Nothing raises more money for your cause than blaming america. Most left leaning douchebags seem to gobble it up and open up their check books.

 

Lemon law

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Gee whiz, India with a huge population with real remaining crushing poverty along side new found opulence suffers from terrorism. Who could have possibly thunk it. Add in a big religious divide, disputed territory with the conflict at stalemate, and you do have an even more volatile mix.

The solution is the same the world over, fix the root problems and far fewer people will be trying to tear the existing system down. Since they don't have air craft carriers and modern tanks, they use terrorism which has always been the politics of the powerless.
 
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If they don't blame the US they might be forced to acknowledge there's another motivation behind the Islamists attacks and doing so would cause much of their worldview to crumble into meaninglessness. After all, if you can't blame the US, who CAN you blame?
 

Ldir

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
If they don't blame the US they might be forced to acknowledge there's another motivation behind the Islamists attacks and doing so would cause much of their worldview to crumble into meaninglessness. After all, if you can't blame the US, who CAN you blame?

Because every single terrorist in the whole world must have the same single motivation. :roll: Go troll somewhere else.
 
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Originally posted by: Ldir
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
If they don't blame the US they might be forced to acknowledge there's another motivation behind the Islamists attacks and doing so would cause much of their worldview to crumble into meaninglessness. After all, if you can't blame the US, who CAN you blame?

Because every single terrorist in the whole world must have the same single motivation. :roll: Go troll somewhere else.
I don't believe I was speaking about "every single terrorist in the whole world" but nice try at mischaracterizing my statement. It's a frequent ploy utilized in this forum so certain people can tag others as trolls. Except it makes the person using the ploy look trollish in the process.

Learn how to be a better and less transparent troll in the future. Thanks.
 

Ldir

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: Ldir
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
If they don't blame the US they might be forced to acknowledge there's another motivation behind the Islamists attacks and doing so would cause much of their worldview to crumble into meaninglessness. After all, if you can't blame the US, who CAN you blame?

Because every single terrorist in the whole world must have the same single motivation. :roll: Go troll somewhere else.
I don't believe I was speaking about "every single terrorist in the whole world" but nice try at mischaracterizing my statement. It's a frequent ploy utilized in this forum so certain people can tag others as trolls. Except it makes the person using the ploy look trollish in the process.

Learn how to be a better and less transparent troll in the future. Thanks.

Show me the way. Wait, you are not transparent. Never mind.
 

Lemon law

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
If they don't blame the US they might be forced to acknowledge there's another motivation behind the Islamists attacks and doing so would cause much of their worldview to crumble into meaninglessness. After all, if you can't blame the US, who CAN you blame?

Once again the obvious is missed and everyone and their brother in law is trying to equate
Muslim and Terrorist as one in the same. Terrorism is an equal opportunity employer and predates Islam by about five thousand years. Perhaps the classic recent example right now is Israel and prior to the formation of the State of Israel people like Began and a pile of others were quite prominent jewish terrorists. And as soon as they no longer needed terrorism as a tactic these former terrorists were the loudest complainers when other used terrorism against them. And there have been Christian terrorists, Islamic terrorists, Hindu terrorists, atheist terrorists, and terrorism is a tactic and not an ideology.

And what is wrong with having a few remaining areas where the USA has not quite yet managed to increase the incidence of terrorism? And no, all you neocons out there, that is not your stage cue to come in and start screwing things up so the US can get its proper share of the blame.

 
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Originally posted by: Lemon law
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
If they don't blame the US they might be forced to acknowledge there's another motivation behind the Islamists attacks and doing so would cause much of their worldview to crumble into meaninglessness. After all, if you can't blame the US, who CAN you blame?

Once again the obvious is missed and everyone and their brother in law is trying to equate
Muslim and Terrorist as one in the same. Terrorism is an equal opportunity employer and predates Islam by about five thousand years. Perhaps the classic recent example right now is Israel and prior to the formation of the State of Israel people like Began and a pile of others were quite prominent jewish terrorists. And as soon as they no longer needed terrorism as a tactic these former terrorists were the loudest complainers when other used terrorism against them. And there have been Christian terrorists, Islamic terrorists, Hindu terrorists, atheist terrorists, and terrorism is a tactic and not an ideology.

And what is wrong with having a few remaining areas where the USA has not quite yet managed to increase the incidence of terrorism? And no, all you neocons out there, that is not your stage cue to come in and start screwing things up so the US can get its proper share of the blame.
And LL swings and he misses.

Why use all those words when you could have simply used a single word to make the accusation you were implying - Islamophobic.

A current trueism is still valid right now: The vast majority of Muslims today are NOT terrorists, but the vast majority of terrorists today ARE Muslim.

Nobody is implying that being Muslim and being terrorists are one in the same. At least I am not. So don't try to mischaracterize my statements as such. It doesn't serve any purpose except to be rhetorical in nature and it's a pitiful attempt to improperly malign me.