So who is the bigger evil (Now With Poll)

[TheSiege]

According To This I would have to say bush, plus the 1000 Americans he has sent to their graves over in Iraq

Osama ~ 3000
Bush 14,000+

i know this might be flamebait, but has there been any real evidence that Osama arranged the WTC attacks? i mean he has never admitted it as far as i know.

there is no doubt that bush ordered the war on Iraq

just my 2 cents

 

[sMiLeYz]

Are you kidding?

 

[biostud]

*gets out marshmellows, waiting for flames*

 

[TheAudit]

Welcome to Dumbass Land.

 

[Infohawk]

As TheSeige points out OBL isn't as connected to 9/11 as we had thought he was. Apparently he didn't even finance it and we know he didn't plan it. The current obsession with him needs to stop, but of course he should be brought to justice.

It depends on how you define evil. In terms of people who have died, Bush has caused more.

 

[Gravity]

Yaaaaaaaaaawn.

Trolling, trolling, over the mighty sea!! /music off.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

I don't think President Bush is evil at all. Paul Wolfowitz, on the other hand . . .

 

[Whitecloak]

both of them are assholes though osama is ,by far, the bigger one!

 

[alchemize]

Welcome to ATPN. Even your extremist views will be welcomed with open arms by some. Isn't it grand?

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: Infohawk
As TheSeige points out OBL isn't as connected to 9/11 as we had thought he was. Apparently he didn't even finance it and we know he didn't plan it. The current obsession with him needs to stop, but of course he should be brought to justice.

It depends on how you define evil. In terms of people who have died, Bush has caused more.

Well in that case, Infotroll, then Bush isn't responsible for Iraq. he didn't finance it, and he didn't plan it. The current obsession with him needs to stop.

 

[lordtyranus]

Non-American deaths are meaningless.

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: Infohawk
As TheSeige points out OBL isn't as connected to 9/11 as we had thought he was. Apparently he didn't even finance it and we know he didn't plan it. The current obsession with him needs to stop, but of course he should be brought to justice.

It depends on how you define evil. In terms of people who have died, Bush has caused more.

Well in that case, Infotroll, then Bush isn't responsible for Iraq. he didn't finance it, and he didn't plan it. The current obsession with him needs to stop.

A -> B doesn't mean B -> A. Bush is responsible for Iraq and for the deaths as the commander in chief. (Nice personal attack btw).

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: lordtyranus
Non-American deaths are meaningless.

If that is true then American deaths are also meaningless since American lives are worth as much as non-American lives.

 

[lordtyranus]

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: lordtyranus
Non-American deaths are meaningless.

If that is true then American deaths are also meaningless since American lives are worth as much as non-American lives.

Nope. Our President is responsible only for American lives. So you are looking at ~1000 to ~3000. Osama still has tripled Bush if you look at it in that context.

 

[Red Dawn]

Bush is just not competent, Hussien is evil.

 

[Moonbeam]

Both are profoundly evil. Both claim to love God, to know and understand Him, and both destroy what is loved by God because their egos blind them to His Will. Those that support each man, claiming the light of Gods Representative to each of their religions, are evil too for the same reasons. Both sinners and their supporters need to be stopped.

This will not happen through violence or retribution. It can only happen when each understands that he is forgiven and could not have done otherwise. But those who can stop them should try as best they can to do so without sin.

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: Infohawk
As TheSeige points out OBL isn't as connected to 9/11 as we had thought he was. Apparently he didn't even finance it and we know he didn't plan it. The current obsession with him needs to stop, but of course he should be brought to justice.

It depends on how you define evil. In terms of people who have died, Bush has caused more.

Well in that case, Infotroll, then Bush isn't responsible for Iraq. he didn't finance it, and he didn't plan it. The current obsession with him needs to stop.

A -> B doesn't mean B -> A. Bush is responsible for Iraq and for the deaths as the commander in chief. (Nice personal attack btw).

So, Infosquawk, you are saying that OBL isn't the leader of Al Qaida, but Bush is the leader of our armed forces? Just trying to follow your illogic.

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: lordtyranus

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: lordtyranus
Non-American deaths are meaningless.

If that is true then American deaths are also meaningless since American lives are worth as much as non-American lives.

Nope. Our President is responsible only for American lives. So you are looking at ~1000 to ~3000. Osama still has tripled Bush if you look at it in that context.

How is Osama responsible for 1000 to 3000? Shouldn't he only be responsible for Al-quada lives?

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: lordtyranus

Nope. Our President is responsible only for American lives. So you are looking at ~1000 to ~3000. Osama still has tripled Bush if you look at it in that context.

That's certainly a novel theory, though it completely defies common sense and the law of war.

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: alchemize
So, Infosquawk, you are saying that OBL isn't the leader of Al Qaida, but Bush is the leader of our armed forces? Just trying to follow your illogic.

You sure are an angry troll. :roll: Again, nice personal flame against the rules of the forum.

What I'm saying is that OBL didn't plan or finance 911 so I'm not sure how he's responsible for the evil it was. Bush on the other hand had the final say in the attack on Iraq. If OBL really was a but for cause of 911 then yeah, he's responsible for it. Bush has still caused more deaths though.

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: lordtyranus
Non-American deaths are meaningless.

I nominate that post as the dumb@ss post of the day. I also 2nd and 3rd that nomination! :|

I hope I took your statement out of context...I really do.

 

[Whitecloak]

Originally posted by: lordtyranus
Non-American deaths are meaningless.

suck me fvckface

Way, way over the line, even for P&N. Two weeks off.

AnandTech Moderator

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Bush is just not competent, Hussien is evil.

Hussein == OBL ??

Whee.. the brainwashing has worked! (j/k)

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: lordtyranus
Non-American deaths are meaningless.

lordtyranus, don't be a stupid troll. The left has Infotroll and a host of others to keep them in the gutter. Please keep ours out.

 

[lordtyranus]

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: lordtyranus

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: lordtyranus
Non-American deaths are meaningless.

If that is true then American deaths are also meaningless since American lives are worth as much as non-American lives.

Nope. Our President is responsible only for American lives. So you are looking at ~1000 to ~3000. Osama still has tripled Bush if you look at it in that context.

How is Osama responsible for 1000 to 3000? Shouldn't he only be responsible for Al-quada lives?

Were we discussing Al Quada lives? Since we are Americans, and OBL has killed 3000 of us, I think it follows that OBL is the greater evil and more dangerous to our country.