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So who can't wait for Superman?

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There's a bit of misinformation in this thread so far...

Originally posted by: Mo0o
after reading teh whole debacle over the script it looks like a pile of ass

You're right in that there were horrible problems developing a Superman movie throughout the 90's and many different directors & scripts were attached to the project. THAT would have been a horrible movie. However, Bryan Singer (Usual Suspects/X-Men 1& 2/Apt Pupil) took over the Superman reigns 3 years ago and completely started from scratch. So while it may or may not turn out to be bad, the director/script fiasco will not be the reason.

This also throws the whole movie budget out of whack. I don't know the final budget number, but before it was complete numbers like $350 million were being thrown about. Assume for a minute that the $350 number is correct; The actual movie that has been made would have cost roughly $200 million if it would have started from scratch in 2003. The massive figures that have been thrown around are because of the project being in development hell through the 90's.

Originally posted by: Citrix
they will f*ck it up like they do with all the other remakes they do.

It's a sequel, not a remake. It will continue where the Superman 2 story left off and completely disregard 3 & 4, thankfully. Of course, some people have the same feeling about sequels as you do about remakes. 😛

CK
 
Hackman > Spacey... but we've been here before. Spacey is a good actor but the type cast placid outcast roles he has been in really never impressed me much. Honestly the only spacey movie I've really enjoyed the twist in was Usual Suspects.

Hackman obiviously has been around longer, but his list of films has more solid titles IMO than spacey. He also plays more range in characters.
 
The reviews are saying it's as good or better than Batman Begins. If true it should be one of the best films this year.
 
Originally posted by: TGS
Hackman > Spacey... but we've been here before. Spacey is a good actor but the type cast placid outcast roles he has been in really never impressed me much. Honestly the only spacey movie I've really enjoyed the twist in was Usual Suspects.

Hackman obiviously has been around longer, but his list of films has more solid titles IMO than spacey. He also plays more range in characters.

As actors, I think they're both great.

In general, I prefer the more serious/brooding Lex Luthor to the way the character was in the original movies. I recognize that part of the character portrayal was likely the result of a decision made above Gene Hackman's head, however.

It looks like Kevin Spacey gets to seem a little more serious/dangerous while still having a bit of camp to the character. The whole "WRONG!" bit was awesome. 🙂

CK
 
Originally posted by: TGS
Hackman > Spacey

Ha Ha, Hackman's comedic portral of Lex Luther is nothing but a pathetic joke. I'm not going to pass judgement of which Luther is better at this point having not seen the new movie, but if Spacey is anything like the cold ruthless bastard that Lex Luther truely is, Hackman's version will be soon forgotten.
 
It's more a problem with his lackeys that amounts to the comedic portions of the films. Luther on the other hand displays a complete lack of remorse for the people he plans to kill when launching the missiles to break off the California coast.

[pointing to a map of California and the San Andreas Fault]
Lex Luthor: Everything west of this line is the richest, most expensive real estate in the world: San Diego, Los Angeles, San Francisco. Everything on THIS side of the line is just hundreds and hundreds of miles of worthless desert land, which just so happens to be owned by...
[Whaps Otis with his pointer]
Otis: Uhhh... Lex Luthor Incorporated.
Lex Luthor: Now, call me foolish, call me irresponsible, it occurs to me that a 500 megaton bomb planted at just the proper point would, uh...
Superman: Would destroy most of California. Millions of innocent people would be killed. And the west coast as we know it would-...
Lex Luthor: Fall into the sea.
Lex Luthor: [Gives a little wave with his hand] Bye-bye, California. Hello, new west coast. My west coast.
[Otis overlays map with new map]
Lex Luthor: Costa Del Lex. Luthorville. Marina del Lex. Otisburg... Otisburg?
Otis: Miss Tessmacher, she's got her own place.
Lex Luthor: Otisburg?
Otis: It's a little bitty place.
Lex Luthor: [Angrily] Otisburg?
Otis: Okay, I'll just wipe it off, that's all. Just a little town.
[Erases Otisburg]


Superman: Is that how a warped brain like yours gets its kicks? By planning the death of innocent people?
Lex Luthor: No, by causing the death of innocent people.

...

Superman: You don't even care where that other missile is headed, do you?
Lex Luthor: Of course I do. I know exactly where it's headed. Hackensack, New Jersey.
[he pushes Superman into the pool]

...


Miss Teschmacher: [after learning that there is a missile heading toward Hackensack] Lex, my mother lives in Hackensack.
[Luthor checks his watch and shakes his head]
 
Got a ticket for myself and another one for my nephew for the 10:00 P.M. show tomorrow night. I'm not sure why, but lately instead of having 11:59 P.M. shows, they've started having them at 10:00 P.M. instead. I guess they figure if the movie is still running when the clock rolls over to the official release day, they're in the clear.
 
Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
I've heard bad things about it thus far

I thought it was going to suck, but the reviews are coming in good. Not sure where you heard bad things.
 
Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven
Got a ticket for myself and another one for my nephew for the 10:00 P.M. show tomorrow night. I'm not sure why, but lately instead of having 11:59 P.M. shows, they've started having them at 10:00 P.M. instead. I guess they figure if the movie is still running when the clock rolls over to the official release day, they're in the clear.

Saw the 10pm show too. I thought it was great. Definitely worth the wait.
 
I never understood the fascination with a hero that could not be hurt and only weakend by a single substance. The plot pool for that is pretty lame.

Atleast with Batman and Spiderman you could shoot em with a gun and they die.

A nuke won't even scuff SuperFag *BORING*
 
I'm going to see it tomorrow afternoon, if I can force myself to stay awake after I get home from work in the morning. I'm watching Superman I and II before I go.
 
Originally posted by: TheSlamma
I never understood the fascination with a hero that could not be hurt and only weakend by a single substance. The plot pool for that is pretty lame.

Atleast with Batman and Spiderman you could shoot em with a gun and they die.

A nuke won't even scuff SuperFag *BORING*

Not true. At least in the comics and cartoons, they weakened him a bit to make to more realistic. For instance, bullets won't hurt him, but a 50 cal machine gun will push him backwards and sting a bit. A nuke would beat the snot out of him (it might even kill him)...but not sure if they're going to carry that over to the movie though.
 
Originally posted by: TheSlamma
I never understood the fascination with a hero that could not be hurt and only weakend by a single substance. The plot pool for that is pretty lame.

Atleast with Batman and Spiderman you could shoot em with a gun and they die.
A nuke won't even scuff SuperFag *BORING*

well, you would think after 40 to 50 years of fighting all these bad guys they'd take a bullet or two. 🙂
 
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