So while you were wondering if there was going to be a gun grab

JKing106

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Whew! I thought they were going to take my Barrett .50 Cal sniper rifle, my claymore mines, hand grenades, and Surface to Air Missiles (SAM.) Thanks baby Jeebus it's only knives!
 

BoberFett

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Originally posted by: JKing106
Whew! I thought they were going to take my Barrett .50 Cal sniper rifle, my claymore mines, hand grenades, and Surface to Air Missiles (SAM.) Thanks baby Jeebus it's only knives!

You sound retarded.

Oh wait, that's your brilliant line.

WWYBYWB?
 

JKing106

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Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: JKing106
Whew! I thought they were going to take my Barrett .50 Cal sniper rifle, my claymore mines, hand grenades, and Surface to Air Missiles (SAM.) Thanks baby Jeebus it's only knives!

You sound retarded.

Oh wait, that's your brilliant line.

WWYBYWB?

Don't make me roll up on you in my Abrams. I'm surgical in that muhfugga.
 

herm0016

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kinda scary.. i thought they would go for guns first. seems like this could be considered under the 2nd amendment, depending on what your interpretation of the word "arms" means. most of the knives they are targeting are used as tools and not weapons, can they be classified as tools and not knives?
 

NeoV

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as Kramer said on the set of his rebuilt Merv Griffin show.."We've officially bottomed out"

some hack-job blog is now official Obama policy?

Please tell me you have some actual facts to discuss, not right-wing extremist chum to try and get a feeding frenzy started?! Please?

Pathetic desperation - it doesn't look good on any of you.
 

herm0016

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Originally posted by: NeoV
as Kramer said on the set of his rebuilt Merv Griffin show.."We've officially bottomed out"

some hack-job blog is now official Obama policy?

Please tell me you have some actual facts to discuss, not right-wing extremist chum to try and get a feeding frenzy started?! Please?

Pathetic desperation - it doesn't look good on any of you.

i guess you missed the official government document
http://www.kniferights.org/U%2...20Opening%20Knives.pdf

and that Obama has not even been mentioned in the thread..

partisan hack or Pathetic desperation... you decide.

the types of knives they are keeping out are designs that have been sold here for quite a long time, stuff you can pick up in any sporting goods store. the way the switchblade act is being interpreted is to dis-allow any knife that is in any way assisted opening including springs, levers, etc. the knives that they have dis-allowed are obviously utility type blades, basically tools designed to be easily opened with one hand, not built to be weapons.
 

NeoV

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note that is from the US Customs department, and discusses not allowing these items into the country at roadway border points - not banning them if they are already in the country.

I really don't see the big deal here at all.
 

Vette73

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Originally posted by: NeoV
note that is from the US Customs department, and discusses not allowing these items into the country at roadway border points - not banning them if they are already in the country.

I really don't see the big deal here at all.

This.

Oh and the OPs link was to a nut job BLOG who was getting his info from World Nut Daily.

Good to see the idiots that eat this stuff up. :laugh:
 

Nebor

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Originally posted by: NeoV
note that is from the US Customs department, and discusses not allowing these items into the country at roadway border points - not banning them if they are already in the country.

I really don't see the big deal here at all.

Customs just deciding that certain things can't come in the country anymore doesn't bother you? That's how we lost post-'89 semi-automatic rifles: with the stroke of a pen. How about cantaloupes can't come in the country anymore? Or faberge eggs? Where does it end?
 

Red Dawn

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A link to the kind of assisted opening utility knives that's being talked about?
 

waggy

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i am a knife nut. i collect them and have a bunch of them. they are great tools (always have one on or near me).

but this is really a bs issue. its just customs.

if they start takeing them while ON us soil when stoped for a parking ticket or such then let me know
 

Nebor

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Originally posted by: waggy
i am a knife nut. i collect them and have a bunch of them. they are great tools (always have one on or near me).

but this is really a bs issue. its just customs.

if they start takeing them while ON us soil when stoped for a parking ticket or such then let me know

This is why incremental banning (of guns and apparently now knives :confused:) works. People say, oh, well they're not going to take MINE. Well that means your kids will never be able to buy one. That means that YOU will never be able to buy a new one. Cut off the supply, prices skyrocketed and availability plummets. Just what we need, a pre-ban knife market.
 

OutHouse

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Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: NeoV
note that is from the US Customs department, and discusses not allowing these items into the country at roadway border points - not banning them if they are already in the country.

I really don't see the big deal here at all.

This.

Oh and the OPs link was to a nut job BLOG who was getting his info from World Nut Daily.

Good to see the idiots that eat this stuff up. :laugh:


even if the info is correct you still dismiss just because its on a nut jobs blog?
 

OutHouse

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Originally posted by: herm0016
Originally posted by: NeoV
as Kramer said on the set of his rebuilt Merv Griffin show.."We've officially bottomed out"

some hack-job blog is now official Obama policy?

Please tell me you have some actual facts to discuss, not right-wing extremist chum to try and get a feeding frenzy started?! Please?

Pathetic desperation - it doesn't look good on any of you.

i guess you missed the official government document
http://www.kniferights.org/U%2...20Opening%20Knives.pdf

and that Obama has not even been mentioned in the thread..

partisan hack or Pathetic desperation... you decide.

the types of knives they are keeping out are designs that have been sold here for quite a long time, stuff you can pick up in any sporting goods store. the way the switchblade act is being interpreted is to dis-allow any knife that is in any way assisted opening including springs, levers, etc. the knives that they have dis-allowed are obviously utility type blades, basically tools designed to be easily opened with one hand, not built to be weapons.

i know a guy witn one arm that is really pissed about this. he didn't use a switch blade but used the inertia-type opening knife. maybe he can sue for discrimination...

 
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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
A link to the kind of assisted opening utility knives that's being talked about?

http://www.bladehq.com/images/knives/brand/twitchii.jpg

Originally posted by: Citrix


i know a guy witn one arm that is really pissed about this. he didn't use a switch blade but used the inertia-type opening knife. maybe he can sue for discrimination...

People with disabilities (missing a hand) are exempt, always have been.

The law was passed in 1958 as a reaction to West Side Story. Oh no, they use switchblades, ban them for the children!
 

kage69

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Ugh. I cross the border fairly regularly and always have an assisted opening folder clipped to my pocket. Guess I'll be hiding it from now on to be on the safe side.

 

Fern

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I saw this when first posted yesterday, I didn't understand it then and still don't

1. How can the Customs & Border Protection unilaterally decide what's legal and what isn't? To allow them to do so would seem to result in uneven enforcement of the law (disparate treatment of knife companies).

2. So CBP isn't going to let these types of knives into the USA anymore, can stores (Walmart etc) still sell what they have in stock?

3. What about US manufacturers who make these knives, can they contuinue to do so? (I don't see how CBP can stop them)

4. If US companies can make them, and we can buy them but foreign manufacturers can't ship their product here doesn't that amount to (unlawful) trade restrictions?

Can someone explain this, what am I missing?

Fern
 
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Originally posted by: Fern
I saw this when first posted yesterday, I didn't understand it then and still don't

1. How can the Customs & Border Protection unilaterally decide what's legal and what isn't? To allow them to do so would seem to result in uneven enforcement of the law (disparate treatment of knife companies).

2. So CBP isn't going to let these types of knives into the USA anymore, can stores (Walmart etc) still sell what they have in stock?

3. What about US manufacturers who make these knives, can they contuinue to do so? (I don't see how CBP can stop them)

4. If US companies can make them, and we can buy them but foreign manufacturers can't ship their product here doesn't that amount to (unlawful) trade restrictions?

Can someone explain this, what am I missing?

Fern

Never heard of the ATF? They make, interpret and enforce their own laws and rules.