So where do hospitals turn when courts won't enforce laws?

[episodic]

Patient has no medical problem, refuses to leave hospital, hospital evicts here - court admits hospital is right - but in good conscience can't evict her. . .meanwhile she has no insurance and a 1.2 million dollar bill already.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/03/05/BAG4QBL3AM1.DTL

Disgusting. I don't understand why they don't take her to the curb, and say bye. Why is it the hospital's problem?

 

[Dissipate]

She racked up $1.2 million in hospital bills already?! :Q

I would definately kick her to the curb. This woman has a history of this bullsh!t.

 

[Aimster]

I would take a ****** in a bucket

and leave it in her room

problem solved.

 

[zendari]

MedicalCareExpense++;

I'm not suprised SF liberals have to deal with this.

 

[Dissipate]

Originally posted by: zendari
MedicalCareExpense++;

I'm not suprised SF liberals have to deal with this.

Apparently they want to deal with it instead of just kicking this woman out.

 

[Kwaipie]

Surely someone saw 60 Minutes last night. My sympathy for hospitals is long gone.

 

[episodic]

Originally posted by: Kwaipie
Surely someone saw 60 Minutes last night. My sympathy for hospitals is long gone.

So you side with a someone just not leaving when nothing is wrong with them?

 

[Kwaipie]

Originally posted by: episodic

Originally posted by: Kwaipie
Surely someone saw 60 Minutes last night. My sympathy for hospitals is long gone.

So you side with a someone just not leaving when nothing is wrong with them?

If you, as the patient, believe there is something wrong with you, care is obviously needed. If it is mental health, transfer the patient. My wife works for a major metropolitan hospital, I hear horror stories all the time about misdiagnosis. Does this make me an expert? no, just stating that I have second-hand experience that I hear about on a daily basis.

 

[techs]

Let me tell you the real story. As someone who has worked for years in health insurance I can give a little general background.
In many states there are laws which govern hospital discharges. These laws were enacted in many instances many years ago. They were needed because hospitals would take seriously ill people and wheel them to the curb and literally push them out of their wheelchairs. And the people would die on the street in front of the hospitals.
So being the kind, decent people we Americans are, we passed laws requiring hospitals to arrange for suitable places for people to be discharged to. Or if they were not medically stable to be kept in the hospital and treated until they were.
Just as we chose to require hospitals to provide emergency care in life threatening instances.
While this person is probably mentally ill or just happy living in the hospital it doesn't negate the need for these laws. Of course, it appears the law is adequate as it is the hospital that is not kicking her out even though they can do so.
And lets not forget two things.
Tens of milllions of people have no problem paying paying for Terry Shiavo to live for years as a vegetable and incur tens of millions in bills paid for by taxpayers.
And
Eliminating these laws altogether is inhumane and even if they were eliminated they would shortly be re-enacted after the video of people dying in the streets was seen on a daily basis.

 

[theeedude]

Where should the hospital turn?
Oh, I don't know, themselves? Maybe not charging her $3000 per day to stay in a room would be a good start.
Also, that Greenbrae care center sounds like a classy joint. Woman goes to the hospital for a checkup and they won't take her back when she's released?

 

[alchemize]

Frickin mean old bag. Where's an "angel of mercy" nurse when you need one?

 

[episodic]

I think alot of you are missing the last paragraph of the article. This lady isn't mentally ill.

 

[episodic]

Originally posted by: senseamp
Where should the hospital turn?
Oh, I don't know, themselves? Maybe not charging her $3000 per day to stay in a room would be a good start.
Also, that Greenbrae care center sounds like a classy joint. Woman goes to the hospital for a checkup and they won't take her back when she's released?

You ignored the fact that they found her other places to stay, to which she refused. Her family also has assets - and her daughter refuses to help. The hospital has a going rate for staying in a bed - and the woman is cognizant of that charge. So what are hospitals to do? Charge 29.95 a night and fill up with people?

 

[Meuge]

Originally posted by: Kwaipie
Surely someone saw 60 Minutes last night. My sympathy for hospitals is long gone.

Good job moron.

My friend was doing jury duty on a malpractice lawsuit. The doctor was clearly innocent, and the suit was a joke... but when the jury retired, the common consensus was that doctors are rich, and they should "stick it" to the "priviledged rich kid", assign maximum damages, and go home.

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: techs
Tens of milllions of people have no problem paying paying for Terry Shiavo to live for years as a vegetable and incur tens of millions in bills paid for by taxpayers.

lol, so true.

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: episodic

Originally posted by: senseamp
Where should the hospital turn?
Oh, I don't know, themselves? Maybe not charging her $3000 per day to stay in a room would be a good start.
Also, that Greenbrae care center sounds like a classy joint. Woman goes to the hospital for a checkup and they won't take her back when she's released?

You ignored the fact that they found her other places to stay, to which she refused. Her family also has assets - and her daughter refuses to help. The hospital has a going rate for staying in a bed - and the woman is cognizant of that charge. So what are hospitals to do? Charge 29.95 a night and fill up with people?

"This is Tom Bodette for Mercy General. We'll leave the light on for ya."

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Meuge

Originally posted by: Kwaipie
Surely someone saw 60 Minutes last night. My sympathy for hospitals is long gone.

Good job moron.

My friend was doing jury duty on a malpractice lawsuit. The doctor was clearly innocent, and the suit was a joke... but when the jury retired, the common consensus was that doctors are rich, and they should "stick it" to the "priviledged rich kid", assign maximum damages, and go home.

Years of class warfare indoctrination will do that to some people.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: episodic

Originally posted by: senseamp
Where should the hospital turn?
Oh, I don't know, themselves? Maybe not charging her $3000 per day to stay in a room would be a good start.
Also, that Greenbrae care center sounds like a classy joint. Woman goes to the hospital for a checkup and they won't take her back when she's released?

You ignored the fact that they found her other places to stay, to which she refused. Her family also has assets - and her daughter refuses to help. The hospital has a going rate for staying in a bed - and the woman is cognizant of that charge. So what are hospitals to do? Charge 29.95 a night and fill up with people?

"This is Tom Bodette for Mercy General. We'll leave the light on for ya."

lmfao

 

[thraashman]

I'd say that so long as they have somewhere to take her, even if she doesn't want to go there, she should be brought there so long as the place is capable of caring for her. Her wishes were moot once she refused to cooperate. And after reading that last paragraph, I almost think they should just euthanize(sp?) the woman and be done with it.

 

[Kwaipie]

Originally posted by: Meuge

Originally posted by: Kwaipie
Surely someone saw 60 Minutes last night. My sympathy for hospitals is long gone.

Good job moron.

My friend was doing jury duty on a malpractice lawsuit. The doctor was clearly innocent, and the suit was a joke... but when the jury retired, the common consensus was that doctors are rich, and they should "stick it" to the "priviledged rich kid", assign maximum damages, and go home.

Thanks, I appreciate being called a moron. I should just kill myself now that my "moronitude" has been outed.

What on earth does my post have to do with your friend doing jury duty? Did your friend, obviously also a moron, consider speaking with the judge about the behavior of the jurists? Probably not. Being a moron himself, he probably just sat and watched it happen.

Love you,

The Moron

 

[Dissipate]

Originally posted by: Meuge

Originally posted by: Kwaipie
Surely someone saw 60 Minutes last night. My sympathy for hospitals is long gone.

Good job moron.

My friend was doing jury duty on a malpractice lawsuit. The doctor was clearly innocent, and the suit was a joke... but when the jury retired, the common consensus was that doctors are rich, and they should "stick it" to the "priviledged rich kid", assign maximum damages, and go home.

A socialist denouncing 'sticking it to the rich kid' ?!

Oh wait, the rich guy happens to be a doctor, I guess everything is different then. :roll:

 

[purepolly]

Where should the hospital turn?
Oh, I don't know, themselves? Maybe not charging her $3000 per day to stay in a room would be a good start.
Also, that Greenbrae care center sounds like a classy joint. Woman goes to the hospital for a checkup and they won't take her back when she's released?

Dude, why don't you take her into your home? Sorry, but on some level you are really clueless.

Nursing homes, like other businesses are now in it to make a profit, altruism went out the door quite a awhile ago. They are going to pick and choose, if they are smart, which patients they want in their facility. Most nursing homes do this everyday.

As for the hospital charging 3K a day for the room, doesn't change the fact that, the hospital has overhead expenses and that she doesn't need to be there in the first place. We see patients at the hospital like this all the time. They are so obnoxious that no one (other hospitals, NH's, state facilities and FAMILY) wants to deal with them and they end up tying up a bed awaiting placement. BTW I work in a federal facility - so YOU are paying for this to occur on a daily basis. But, I think you are forgetting the even larger issue, these beds are usually needed by someone who is truly ill.

 

[Tom]

After reading the story, some key facts are missing. No reason is given for the place she used to be at, Greenbar, refusing to take her back. To me it sounds like they are possibly responsible for this mess. The lady sounds like sho would be difficult to deal with, and that's why Greenbar sent her to the hospital to begin with. I don't see how that can be legal, as far as I know nursing homes have a legal obligation to care for people who sign all those papers when you go there.

And all this negativity towards the woman, sure she doesn't sound very reasonable, but neither do half the people who post here.

 

[dmcowen674]

Disgusting.

This woman taking up a hospital bed where someone really needs it.

Everyone and all of you is to blame for all of these broken systems.

 

[Meuge]

Originally posted by: Dissipate

Originally posted by: Meuge

Originally posted by: Kwaipie
Surely someone saw 60 Minutes last night. My sympathy for hospitals is long gone.

Good job moron.

My friend was doing jury duty on a malpractice lawsuit. The doctor was clearly innocent, and the suit was a joke... but when the jury retired, the common consensus was that doctors are rich, and they should "stick it" to the "priviledged rich kid", assign maximum damages, and go home.

A socialist denouncing 'sticking it to the rich kid' ?!

Oh wait, the rich guy happens to be a doctor, I guess everything is different then. :roll:

I am sick and tired of you calling me a socialist. You really shouldn't talk, you anarchist retard.