So when did a nosebleed become a major hazmat event?

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Armitage

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So I'm with the kids at swimming lessons at the Y. Some kid - maybe 11 or 12 - in another part of the pool gets a nosebleed. We're not talking projectial arterial bleeding here - just a simple nosebleed.

So one lifeguard grabs a big handful of papertowels and hands them to the kid - very obviously keeping his distance while another yells across the room for "some gloves, disenfectant and a hazmat bag".

The poor kid was already embarrassed about the nosebleed, now he's just horrified at the big deal being made. So now there are two staff with gloves taking his papertowels and stuffing them in a red hazmat bag while another is scouring the floor for drops of blood,placing cones over any he finds until the disenfectant shows up.

Finally, one of the moms watching swim practice helps the kid out a bit instead of just shoving papertowels at him. Meanwhile the disenfectant has arrived, so the staff is off spraying the floor. Bear in mind, this is the pool - the floor is already wet with water so chlorinated that your eyes water when you walk in the room.

I know you have to be careful - but this seemed like a big over-reaction.
 
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Brainonska511

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Why the need for separate disinfectant when you can just use pool water (since it is chlorinated)? At least that is what I was taught in my lifeguard training class.
 
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lol

You don't even want to know the processes followed at Intel when there is blood. Well, if it gets on anything ayway.
 
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Descartes

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It seems the litigious culture of America demands a histrionic response to anything to avoid being put in a position of liability.

imo.
 
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Originally posted by: Armitage
So I'm with the kids at swimming lessons at the Y. Some kid - maybe 11 or 12 - in another part of the pool gets a nosebleed. We're not talking projectial arterial bleeding here - just a simple nosebleed.

So one lifeguard grabs a big handful of papertowels and hands them to the kid - very obviously keeping his distance while another yells across the room for "some gloves, disenfectant and a hazmat bag".

The poor kid was already embarrassed about the nosebleed, now he's just horrified at the big deal being made. So now there are two staff with gloves taking his papertowels and stuffing them in a red hazmat bag while another is scouring the floor for drops of blood,placing cones over any he finds until the disenfectant shows up.

Finally, one of the moms watching swim practice helps the kid out a bit instead of just shoving papertowels at him. Meanwhile the disenfectant has arrived, so the staff is off spraying the floor. Bear in mind, this is the pool - the floor is already wet with water so chlorinated that your eyes water when you walk in the room.

I know you have to be careful - but this seemed like a big over-reaction.
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Universal Precautions FTW!
 
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Tiamat

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ever since diseases like AIDS have been talked about (increasingly), any sight of blood calls for hazmat response :(
 
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Oh yeah, treat ALL body fluids as potentially infected with multiple deadly incurable microorganisms. Although risk to patent skin contact is minute. NOT mucous membrane tho....
 
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BigJ

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At my work it's a big thing too. It's a big process involving gloves, bunch of different chemicals, and special hazmat disposal bags.
 
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I suppose it would be ironic if I said at my hospital when blood hits the floor we're just like eh, whatever and wipe it up with a towel, alert housekeeping and dont even worry about it...
 
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Originally posted by: DeathBUA
I suppose it would be ironic if I said at my hospital when blood hits the floor we're just like eh, whatever and wipe it up with a towel, alert housekeeping and dont even worry about it...
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yea hospitals are funny like that lol
 
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Bloodborne pathogens are more of a concern than whether or not the kid's embarassed.

AIDS isn't the only thing out there. It may be among the worst, but it's by no means the only thing.

Sure, hospitals may handle it differently, but hospitals don't have a few-hundred-thousand-plus gallon tank with good conditions for infectious disease vectors that hundreds of people swim in.
 
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Originally posted by: Armitage


I know you have to be careful - but this seemed like a big over-reaction.
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I know this is immature, but i read the last few words of that line, did a double take, and giggled.

 
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yosuke188

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I think the pool staff is protecting themselves from getting sued. If someone even touches the kid's blood, it's gona be a law suit for bad swimming environment or something ridiculous like that.
 
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Originally posted by: Eli
lol

You don't even want to know the processes followed at Intel when there is blood. Well, if it gets on anything ayway.
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Intel as in MPU fabrication plants??
 
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yosuke188

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Originally posted by: venk
Originally posted by: Armitage


I know you have to be careful - but this seemed like a big over-reaction.
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I know this is immature, but i read the last few words of that line, did a double take, and giggled.
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Made me laugh...
 
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venk

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Originally posted by: mchammer
Originally posted by: Eli
lol

You don't even want to know the processes followed at Intel when there is blood. Well, if it gets on anything ayway.
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Intel as in MPU fabrication plants??
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One day at intel, some guy bled all over a bunch of pentium proccesors.

Thus the Celeron was born.
 
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imagine this scenerio: kid born HIV+ goes swimming one day and gets a nosebleed. life guard gets on one knee and gives kid a paper towel, kid sneezies on lifeguard and gets blood in his eyes, nows hes HIV+. a week later life guard has sex with girlfriend now shes HIV+. 2 months go by and she nicks herself on a burr on a subway seat. 20 min later a porn star on his way to work does the same thing. 1 month later the porn star get his regular HIV test and it comes back positive. 3 people and possibly hundreds of porn stars are going to die because some life guard didn't follow procedures.
 
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venk

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Originally posted by: OrganizedChaos
imagine this scenerio: kid born HIV+ goes swimming one day and gets a nosebleed. life guard gets on one knee and gives kid a paper towel, kid sneezies on lifeguard and gets blood in his eyes, nows hes HIV+. a week later life guard has sex with girlfriend now shes HIV+. 2 months go by and she nicks herself on a burr on a subway seat. 20 min later a porn star on his way to work does the same thing. 1 month later the porn star get his regular HIV test and it comes back positive. 3 people and possibly hundreds of porn stars are going to die because some life guard didn't follow procedures.
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because HIV can survive on a subway seat for 20 minutes. Why didn't you just have the girlfriend step out on her tiny wanged man to sleep with the porn star.
 
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